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Page-o-text. This (edit:that) has to be the highest word count of any page in any thread on this site.

You must not visit the OT section fairly often rolleyes.gif
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Page-o-text. This (edit:that) has to be the highest word count of any page in any thread on this site.

I know he was sarcastic duh. I am just saying why people like standard cards more then aftermarket.
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This endless debate of Golden Tiger vs Alatar is going nowhere. 780 has not been out long enough for all the tests to be done. Just wait till 780 gets a few driver releases.
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This endless debate of Golden Tiger vs Alatar is going nowhere. 780 has not been out long enough for all the tests to be done. Just wait till 780 gets a few driver releases.
oh.. not this again... doh.gif
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Altar really? Your argument makes so sense. No matter what angle I look at it.
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Altar really? Your argument makes so sense. No matter what angle I look at it.

What about it doesn't make sense?

All I'm saying is that card X is 13% faster than card Y clock for clock and that card Y clocking 3% higher than card X doesn't close that gap to 0%. Don't really see how this is hard to understand.
 
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So a 7950 oced match a 7970. Yeah the 7970 is not worth it.Oh look an oced 7870xt match a 7950.7950 is nto worth it. The same happen with 780 and titan. Its the faster card but the price difference with the 780 on the market is just ridiculous.The 780 needs 100-150 mhz more to match a titan. You will get a golden card. Good for you you match a titan
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-As long as you push the volts to 1212mV most titans will hit 1189-1215MHz.

-Mrtooshort just posted this:


and Eric hasn't posted a tweaked score as far as I know.

-non flashed Titans are always TDP limited with OCs higher than 1075MHz or so

-I brought heaven up as a simple example and added that it's 1080p meaning that you will get higher differences at higher resolutions

-I can beat the best 780 score that was at 1228MHz and on watercooling, by over 5% with a card that's at 1175MHz and stock air cooling. I think that means that it's not low single digits. So yes if you want a 780 that will beat even a mediocre/bad titan (say 1163mhz max which would net you just around 80fps in valley), you would need a ~1250MHz+ 780 to even maybe get even with the Titan.

-most of the reviewers hitting any clocks have said it's "up-to" X MHz. Only when you're able to do full runs at a certain steady frequency does it mean that the cards actually clock that high

I'm sorry but it just isn't as fast. Not until you have 780s normally sometimes beating and sometimes losing to the best Titans around. As I said it's the 670 argument all over again.

My Titan must have been a major dud then because 1124 Core clock was the max stable I could get in most things and 1084 was the max I could get in Crysis 3 and Borderlands 2.
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Well there are bound to be a few extremely bad cards.

With that you'd still probably hang with the 1228MHz 780s though...
 
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That sums it up pretty well. As I keep saying, we don't have much of a sample size yet here. I too was defending the Titan with few OC results near its launch, and for the same reasons I'm defending the 780's small sample size.

EDIT: The only difference in my opinion now is that the 780 has made the Titan outmoded for all but large surround or 4k UHD, for all intents and purposes, due to the incredibly close performance and pricing.
@Alatar, by the time you're splitting hairs over 1-3fps on a high number, that already makes the argument for me: they are negligibly different so far. As I said, slots 3-11 (all Titans) average 81fps between them and are all within ~2-2.5fps of eachother. Those are the cream of the crop Titans, to boot. I said I have seen under ~10 OC results in that thread, not people posting pictures of their cards. Give a month and we may very well see the top of the chart fall under a 780 with some great custom BIOS as the Titan currently claims its throne with on the absolute best one ever posted. I'm not saying it *WILL* happen, but it is a possibility here.

 

a = 0.999998

b = 1.000000

 

I) a ~ b

II) a < b

 

I AND II = "true"

 

Titan just has the better chip. I really don't see how this argument is still going...

 

If you would only look at power figures you'd see that it's a leakier chip, nVidia isn't really cutting their GK110 chips for fun you know.

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