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if it had 4gb vram ... friend of mine had in max payne 3 vram usage over 3gb ...

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Originally Posted by bencher View Post

Dont lose the crowd now.

Your point is only valid if those games came from legit sources.

I am sure an even cheaper 7970 can be bought from non legit sources.

So why use newegg prices and ebay to prove your point?

Is steam selling the games for that price?
$235 when bought legit me thinks.
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$50 tomb raider
$60 bioshock
$65 farcry 3 + blood dragon
$60 crysis 3

but that would be too unfair lol 233% price difference all things considered tongue.gif
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Those games are legitimate, they come bundled with amd cards.... Nothing shady about them. And newegg is a major tech vendor in the USA.
what he meant was that if you're buying games of ebay you could also buy a 7970 off ebay probably for close to $300 too.
Edited by th3illusiveman - 5/29/13 at 10:40am
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Those games are legitimate, they come bundled with amd cards.... Nothing shady about them. And newegg is a major tech vendor in the USA.

Weren't you the one complaining about others twisting your words?

Why are you twisting my words?

I said "legit sources". Your point is moot posting eBay prices then comparing cost with a major retailer. Show me one of those games selling on steam or newegg for under $40 then you have a point.
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$235 when bought legit me thinks.
but that would be too unfair lol 233% price difference all things considered tongue.gif

This is indeed the fair way of comparing.
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if it had 4gb vram ... friend of mine had in max payne 3 vram usage over 3gb ...

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For HIGH-END cards (very clear on that before people start saying about how too much VRAM is a marketing ploy), 2 GB is a joke now (a big, crippling factor with the majority of Kepler cards) and 3 GB is the standard. However, I would stick with HIGH-END cards that has 4GB+ to give it additional rendering buffer. I won't expect all 6 GB to be ever used (without reducing settings of course) but knowing I have 6 GB of VRAM that the GK110 can use (albeit again, have to reduce settings), I KNOW that it WILL touch 4 GB VRAM easily in the near future of the card's average lifespan.

If the 780 came with 6 GB VRAM option, then we got ourselves a winner. However, I know for a fact there are no plans for it either...

With that said, I will confess that I like the ACX cooling solution for the 780 from eVGA. Wish our Titan had such an option! tongue.gif
    
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For HIGH-END cards (very clear on that before people start saying about how too much VRAM is a marketing ploy), 2 GB is a joke now (a big, crippling factor with the majority of Kepler cards) and 3 GB is the standard. However, I would stick with HIGH-END cards that has 4GB+ to give it additional rendering buffer. I won't expect all 6 GB to be ever used (without reducing settings of course) but knowing I have 6 GB of VRAM that the GK110 can use (albeit again, have to reduce settings), I KNOW that it WILL touch 4 GB VRAM easily in the near future of the card's average lifespan.

If the 780 came with 6 GB VRAM option, then we got ourselves a winner. However, I know for a fact there are no plans for it either...

With that said, I will confess that I like the ACX cooling solution for the 780 from eVGA. Wish our Titan had such an option! tongue.gif

780s will never see 6GBs. I'm hoping for 4, but it was already stated that there won't be 780 6GB versions, so as to not cut further into Titan sales. Could have been...EVGA Jacob that said it? I'm not positive though, but I know I heard it somewhere.

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nVidia won't allow even the non-reference 780 to be pushed 1400MHz. Bad marketing move. tongue.gif I can assure you that even with non-reference options coming, I DOUBT nVidia is going give out 83%+ ASIC chips to OEM's and let them unrestrict the overvolting to utilize the additional VRM's being packed in. At most we are going to see 1250-1300MHz tops on 780 OC and that is if you do get a golden chip.

Yeah I don't even think we'll ever see anywhere near 1300mhz without a hard mod. I've seen 1228mhz on the modded BIOS, but that BIOS didn't help me one bit, so maybe he's stable at that speed on the stock BIOS too, who knows. My cards are 64% and 73% ASIC. I think everyone's seems to be right around high-60's / low-70's. Only thing I'm pissed about is my one's memory sucks, as +200mhz crashes in some games. I guess I can't complain though, 1176mhz core in SLI is pretty decent.
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well i think i will be at most running single 1600p once my single 1440p has expired in 10 years tongue.gif so i guess 4gb will be sufficiently enough for single 1440p/1600p for years to come

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Why are we talking about the 7970 of all things, the card is old...
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780s will never see 6GBs. I'm hoping for 4, but it was already stated that there won't be 780 6GB versions, so as to not cut further into Titan sales. Could have been...EVGA Jacob that said it? I'm not positive though, but I know I heard it somewhere.
Yeah I don't even think we'll ever see anywhere near 1300mhz without a hard mod. I've seen 1228mhz on the modded BIOS, but that BIOS didn't help me one bit, so maybe he's stable at that speed on the stock BIOS too, who knows. My cards are 64% and 73% ASIC. I think everyone's seems to be right around high-60's / low-70's. Only thing I'm pissed about is my one's memory sucks, as +200mhz crashes in some games. I guess I can't complain though, 1176mhz core in SLI is pretty decent.
Really? Because i'd complain about that day and night...


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Why are we talking about the 7970 of all things, the card is old...
It's the fastest thing AMD has right now and even at 18 months old it's kicking butt thumb.gif
Edited by th3illusiveman - 5/29/13 at 10:53am
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I'll just leave this here, discuss. devil-smiley-019.gif


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Wow, this argument has been going for a couple of days now....

In this whole argument, NVIDIA is the one laughing all the way to the bank. wink.gif
Edited by 2010rig - 5/29/13 at 10:56am
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I'll just leave this here, discuss. devil-smiley-019.gif

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The frame time performance was a bit different as the GeForce GTX 780 was just 12% faster than the Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition, but still 24% faster than the GTX 680 and 10% slower than the GTX Titan. Those figures certainly make the GeForce GTX 780 look pretty powerful and these are the kind of gains we would normally expect from a next-generation product that is showcasing a brand new architecture.
http://www.techspot.com/review/675-nvidia-geforce-gtx-780/page7.html

didn't you Nvidia guys love bringing frametimes into discussions when AMD was really bad at them afew months ago? Well... turns out they are pretty good at it now lol. 12% difference between a 780 and a 7970 when looking at that metric.devil.gif

But who are we kidding, the 780 is faster (as it should be considering it came out a year and a half after the 7970) so i don't know what you're trying to prove....
Edited by th3illusiveman - 5/29/13 at 10:59am
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