Originally Posted by Alatar
Obviously vendors are terrible overclockers then.
The thing is though, none of us here care if maingear, origin, etc. OEM that overprices everything will OC a card by 50MHz and say it OC's a better than a card they have the balls to OC only by 30MHz.
Same goes for their pathetic CPU overclocks. It's like saying alienware is the ultimate authority on how certain parts OC. Just about the most ridiculous statement you could make.
I don't disagree.
What I am saying is that guys whom have had both of these cards for over a month are having issues OC'ing the Titan. Perhaps they don't spend enough time doing it...Perhaps the alpha run wasn't as good as it normally is...Who knows?!
However, on average the 780's are clocking better the the Titans.
I'm not arguing they're terrible OC'ers...What I'm saying is that they've had a month to play with both cards and all of them are saying that the 780 is a better clocker.
Again, not arguing with your point, I'm arguing that they've had the time to play with them and are saying that one OC's better then the other.
I also realize there's a performance difference...I'm not even saying the 780 beats the Titan...I'm saying that in terms of overclocking, one is "vastly" ahead of the other in potential.
Originally Posted by Star Forge
He is right to laugh. 1226MHz is a good overclock for a 780 and it does beat the averages Titan gets but a 780 @ 1226MHz can't beat a Titan clocked at 1150MHz for instance. Clock for clock, the 780 is still 10% behind than a Titan. So what if a Titan can't OC well, it is still beat it (albeit slightly and obvious Price v. Performance is still crap).
You also have to note since the Titan has more VRAM and SMX enabled as well as having hardware DP FP64 enabled, it also uses more power than the 780 on the same TDP scale. So if you factor that, obviously the Titan will have more hurdles to cross to get better OC abilities (power draw limitation-wise) than the 780.
Just like I said above, I'm absolutely not disagreeing with either of your points, I'm saying that at this point, there's actually enough evidence to back up the overclocking statement, in my eyes.
Does that mean a 780 will beat a Titan? Not always...But, one has edged the other out.
Who knows -- Maybe it's a heat indexing issue with the Titan that won't allow boost to go as high...Maybe the hardware is too demanding and forces OVP...Who knows really but, on average the 780 is overclocking better then the Titans.