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I don't disagree.

What I am saying is that guys whom have had both of these cards for over a month are having issues OC'ing the Titan. Perhaps they don't spend enough time doing it...Perhaps the alpha run wasn't as good as it normally is...Who knows?!

However, on average the 780's are clocking better the the Titans.

I'm not arguing they're terrible OC'ers...What I'm saying is that they've had a month to play with both cards and all of them are saying that the 780 is a better clocker.

Again, not arguing with your point, I'm arguing that they've had the time to play with them and are saying that one OC's better then the other.

I also realize there's a performance difference...I'm not even saying the 780 beats the Titan...I'm saying that in terms of overclocking, one is "vastly" ahead of the other in potential.
Just like I said above, I'm absolutely not disagreeing with either of your points, I'm saying that at this point, there's actually enough evidence to back up the overclocking statement, in my eyes.

Does that mean a 780 will beat a Titan? Not always...But, one has edged the other out.

Who knows -- Maybe it's a heat indexing issue with the Titan that won't allow boost to go as high...Maybe the hardware is too demanding and forces OVP...Who knows really but, on average the 780 is overclocking better then the Titans.

You do know that the titan boost to about a 30MHz+ lower frequency at stock? A 780 at 1215MHz has the same OC potential as a Titan at 1163/1175MHz.

If there's an OCing potential difference it's a really small one.

E: and about your personal experiences. You have a worse Titan than the majority on OCN and a better 780 than the majority on OCN. Go figure. Victim of the silicon lottery, it happens. This is why single samples don't really tell you anything.
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Originally Posted by zGunBLADEz View Post

Come on bro you know that is not true..
You see this guys pushing 50mhz and getting worry about 80c temps lol...

Not really no...
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post #2272 of 2543
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out of the box is a good overclocker?
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who cares, overclocking isn't a part of "out of the box" anyways.

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Why would we care about average joes on an enthusiast forum where the discussion is very much centered on how these cards are for our uses.

For the average joe a 680 is a better card than a 7970. Doesn't mean it's true on OCN.

interesting how this logic can only shine through during some nvidia civil war lol. when it's the 7950/7970 against the 670/680 big boost clocks it's out of box that matters on ocn. anyway, titan doesn't oc as good as the 780. add in the non reference designs and it's obvious the 780 will oc better. however, for the millionth time, the titan is a faster card and is faster overclocked, even with the lower overclocking headroom.
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Wow, this argument has been going for a couple of days now....
...And, it's going to continue until the 780 owners actually do some benches that actually proves their point,....oh, wait,....and, wait, .....
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post #2274 of 2543
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How is this relevant?

You don't need to be FtW to flash a bios and OC over 1150MHz. Not like it's rocket science. Well maybe to the vendors it is but anyways... They have to cater to the average joe, we can just push our cards to the max.

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It was a sarcasm. If you check the graphs the 7950 outperform 7970 by 10 fps. Because they use different settings lol. A 7970 needs 100 mhz more to match a 7970

Yes I know only MSAA has been lowered from 4x to 2x for 7950 against 7970,rest settings are same.But still 7950 put a formidable show against 7970GHZ edition at much lesser price in that H OCP test.
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...And, it's going to continue until the 780 owners actually do some benches that actually proves their point,....oh, wait,....and, wait, .....

There 2 arguments: Nvidia Drivers and 780 vs Titan overclock.
post #2277 of 2543
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Yes I know only MSAA has been lowered from 4x to 2x for 7950 against 7970,rest settings are same.But still 7950 put a formidable show against 7970GHZ edition at much lesser price in that H OCP test.

Can you share the link?
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interesting how this logic can only shine through during some nvidia civil war lol. when it's the 7950/7970 against the 670/680 big boost clocks it's out of box that matters on ocn. anyway, titan doesn't oc as good as the 780. add in the non reference designs and it's obvious the 780 will oc better. however, for the millionth time, the titan is a faster card and is faster overclocked, even with the lower overclocking headroom.

Titan having worse OCing potential than a 780 is very much debatable. Titan starts out at lower clocks. Very few 780s actually reach clocks over 4% higher than Titans.
 
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I did not as high, but close.

All 4x crossfirex set ups actually do worse then 3.

Are you serious?

3-way SLI has lower FPS than 4 WAY SLI
Same thing goes for 3 x CrossFire is weaker than 4 x Crossfire

AMD as slightly better Scaling

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You do know that the titan boost to about a 30MHz+ lower frequency at stock? A 780 at 1215MHz has the same OC potential as a Titan at 1163/1175MHz.

If there's an OCing potential difference it's a really small one.

E: and about your personal experiences. You have a worse Titan than the majority on OCN and a better 780 than the majority on OCN. Go figure. Victim of the silicon lottery, it happens. This is why single samples don't really tell you anything.

I do and I'm aware of both cards potential...I'm simply saying that in my own/our experiences there seems to be one that's actually a better overclocker and that's the 780...Maybe they're not doing it right? I couldn't venture a guess but, when my own cards back up their findings...I have to give their conclusion a bit of weight.

Also, saying that the 780 beats a Titan (in terms of OC) doesn't really make that big of a difference...What's the gap going to close to? Maybe 5% vs a STOCK Titan?

The 10% gap isn't going away unless you're comparing OC'd to stock which is stupid...

I'm just saying that one card OC's better then the other.

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