Originally Posted by Alatar
Originally Posted by GoldenTiger
Shame we don't live in a fantasy.... in the real world, cost does matter.
I'm not spreading FUD and in fact you prove it in this very post. If you're saying the reason my review link is "invalid and not properly oc'd", the same would be true of the GTX 780 as well there. Most 780 and titan reviews note that memory oc'ing does basically nothing for performance (I can link you that if you'd like too!, in fact here's one right now: "Increasing GDDR5 clocks did little to nothing to improve performance until the core speeds were bumped up." http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/61310-nvidia-geforce-gtx-780-review-14.html
. But again, since these cards aren't being "properly oc'd" according to your abstract criteria, we have to defer to stock vs. stock, and there the difference is, as I said, within spitting distance (negligible, i.e. basically the same just like I said). You can split hairs over 3% in one game, 8% in the next, but the bottom line is it simply is irrelevant: 2 fps in a game isn't going to make your experience better.
3% in one and 8% in the next? Last time I checked the reviewers were showing around 10% difference between the cards. So that's 7% in one game and 13% in another.
I just don't get the point here. You were just saying how much faster the 780 is compared to the 7970GHz but if the Titan only gets 2fps more than the 780 then in the same situation the 780 will only get 4-3fps more than the 7970GHz. So which one is it? The differences are big or unnoticeable? Can't really have it both ways.
It all comes down to that pesky "fantasy land vacuum" vs. "real life" thing. Look at more than a cherry-picked bench or two and it is around a 5-6% average difference which is completely negligible. And, as far as 25-30% vs. 5%: here's the difference: as I said, real people don't live in fantasy worlds. 25-30% performance for 44% more cash, is able to be rationalized by some people. 5%ish for... 54% more money? Yeah, you're not going to find much company on that one. You honestly can't see the difference there? How about between 40fps and 52fps? That brings it from somewhat-choppy to basically-smooth for many gamers. 52fps vs. 55, not so much. That again is the difference. It's fun to sit here and argue endlessly about how it's 3%, no it's 8%, no it's 1fps, no it's 3fps, but at the end of the day we're buying these cards to use, not sit around thinking about how awesome it is that we own them. Right?
Originally Posted by amstech
Depends on the game.
The 780 is always faster then a 7970Ghz but is some cases it flat out whoops it.
And that right there illustrates my points about perfectly