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It runs ridiculously cool on idle/non-gaming use. The highest I get it up to while browsing the web and listening to music is 32C. I have to get my in-game OSD setup to see what my load temps are, but from the quick minimize I did during BF4, it looked like 65 or 66 was what it was hitting.

i guess mine is a little cooler at idle and a little warmer under full load lol

I get 28* while browsing the web and 78* on abaslute max after about a hour round of 64 man conquest server full. but I blame my case having poor ventilation biggrin.gif

anyone recomend a 200MM fan that moves a lot of air? I have a Coolermaster megaflow in my 650D case but I dont think it moves enough air.....


would I be better off cutting up the front and putting 2 120s or 2 140s??

i have my air set up like this:

Intake- Front 200MM Collermaster MF set to 12V

Exhaust- H100i in the roof with Corsair SP120s in push

Exhaust- rear 120mm Corsar AF120


All Corsair fans are the quiet editions on 12V


any help?? Im not too fussy when it comes to noise but I like to keep it as quiet as i can smile.gif
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I had flashed my card back to stock a few weeks back to use on the stock cooler for a bit.

I just now flashed back to skyn3t and decided to use your EZFlash utility. It was extremely easy and fast. Just wanted to say thanks for taking the time to do all of this! Thanks!
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It runs ridiculously cool on idle/non-gaming use. The highest I get it up to while browsing the web and listening to music is 32C. I have to get my in-game OSD setup to see what my load temps are, but from the quick minimize I did during BF4, it looked like 65 or 66 was what it was hitting.


Yea my 780 runs a lot cooler than my 760 ftw did, even when I have the 780 overclocked! I have my 780 over clocked +196MHz on the GPU and +250MHz on the Mem, and overvoltage turned on + 38 and mine is around 64-69 playing battlefield 4. Im pretty new to overclocking, does that seem like a decent overclock for the 780?
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Yea my 780 runs a lot cooler than my 760 ftw did, even when I have the 780 overclocked! I have my 780 over clocked +196MHz on the GPU and +250MHz on the Mem, and overvoltage turned on + 38 and mine is around 64-69 playing battlefield 4. Im pretty new to overclocking, does that seem like a decent overclock for the 780?

Someone is probably better at answering that than me redface.gif. I'm kinda new to NVIDIA GPUs again.

I've got a couple problems, though...unfortunately.

Borderlands 2 is crashing with PhysX on high. It does it on low, too, but it seems like the driver is able to restart itself in time for the game to not do a complete crash.

BF4 has crashed once to a "Directx...etc.' message, which seems like a driver crash as it happened with my MYST, too. The last crash and when I stopped playing was just a plain crash.

What I find odd is that the card isn't overheating... it's not exceeding even 65C on either game. I'm running latest WHQL drivers (334.89 I believe) and latest PhysX drivers. If any of you have some tips or suggestions, or even some common knowledge I may not know, I'd love to hear it. I've read a bit about people downclocking to stock clocks and not having a single problem afterwards, but I'm hoping that's not the case.
 
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Someone is probably better at answering that than me redface.gif. I'm kinda new to NVIDIA GPUs again.

I've got a couple problems, though...unfortunately.

Borderlands 2 is crashing with PhysX on high. It does it on low, too, but it seems like the driver is able to restart itself in time for the game to not do a complete crash.

BF4 has crashed once to a "Directx...etc.' message, which seems like a driver crash as it happened with my MYST, too. The last crash and when I stopped playing was just a plain crash.

What I find odd is that the card isn't overheating... it's not exceeding even 65C on either game. I'm running latest WHQL drivers (334.89 I believe) and latest PhysX drivers. If any of you have some tips or suggestions, or even some common knowledge I may not know, I'd love to hear it. I've read a bit about people downclocking to stock clocks and not having a single problem afterwards, but I'm hoping that's not the case.

The only thing I can think of right now in my 1AM foggy state is to A.) completely flush the drivers & re-install B.) Try bumping up the voltage & power target via msi-afterburner/precX Just crank it up to the stock max of +38mv, and take the power target to 106% C.) .Try uninstalling the new physX then re-installing an older PhysX
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Someone is probably better at answering that than me redface.gif. I'm kinda new to NVIDIA GPUs again.

I've got a couple problems, though...unfortunately.

Borderlands 2 is crashing with PhysX on high. It does it on low, too, but it seems like the driver is able to restart itself in time for the game to not do a complete crash.

BF4 has crashed once to a "Directx...etc.' message, which seems like a driver crash as it happened with my MYST, too. The last crash and when I stopped playing was just a plain crash.

What I find odd is that the card isn't overheating... it's not exceeding even 65C on either game. I'm running latest WHQL drivers (334.89 I believe) and latest PhysX drivers. If any of you have some tips or suggestions, or even some common knowledge I may not know, I'd love to hear it. I've read a bit about people downclocking to stock clocks and not having a single problem afterwards, but I'm hoping that's not the case.

How are you installing your drivers? Driver remnants seem to be causing a good deal of problems lately. Uninstall your drivers, run DDU (available from Guru 3D), do clean install. That seems to help.
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I had flashed my card back to stock a few weeks back to use on the stock cooler for a bit.

I just now flashed back to skyn3t and decided to use your EZFlash utility. It was extremely easy and fast. Just wanted to say thanks for taking the time to do all of this! Thanks!

Thanks! We do it for the love of it! wink.gif
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Originally Posted by pez View Post

Someone is probably better at answering that than me redface.gif. I'm kinda new to NVIDIA GPUs again.

I've got a couple problems, though...unfortunately.

Borderlands 2 is crashing with PhysX on high. It does it on low, too, but it seems like the driver is able to restart itself in time for the game to not do a complete crash.

BF4 has crashed once to a "Directx...etc.' message, which seems like a driver crash as it happened with my MYST, too. The last crash and when I stopped playing was just a plain crash.

What I find odd is that the card isn't overheating... it's not exceeding even 65C on either game. I'm running latest WHQL drivers (334.89 I believe) and latest PhysX drivers. If any of you have some tips or suggestions, or even some common knowledge I may not know, I'd love to hear it. I've read a bit about people downclocking to stock clocks and not having a single problem afterwards, but I'm hoping that's not the case.

Do what the guys said above, OR if its like my system AVOID the 334 drivers branch all together as i have had only but crashes in every game with all of them, i had to revert back to 332.21 every time (all of this of course after using DDU) rolleyes.gif


Cheers

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The only thing I can think of right now in my 1AM foggy state is to A.) completely flush the drivers & re-install B.) Try bumping up the voltage & power target via msi-afterburner/precX Just crank it up to the stock max of +38mv, and take the power target to 106% C.) .Try uninstalling the new physX then re-installing an older PhysX

I will give that a try as well. I was trying to wrap my head around the PrecX software and noticed those two settings, but wasn't sure exactly what they meant. What exactly does it mean for the 'power target'?
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How are you installing your drivers? Driver remnants seem to be causing a good deal of problems lately. Uninstall your drivers, run DDU (available from Guru 3D), do clean install. That seems to help.

Well since I was coming from AMD, before I installed my NV drivers, I ran DriverFusion to clean up the remaining AMD driver (or at least I hope it did). Then I restarted, and installed NV drivers. I didn't know there was a dedicated display driver uninstaller, though. Good tool to have; thanks!
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Thanks! We do it for the love of it! wink.gif
Do what the guys said above, OR if its like my system AVOID the 334 drivers branch all together as i have had only but crashes in every game with all of them, i had to revert back to 332.21 every time (all of this of course after using DDU) rolleyes.gif


Cheers

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Yeah, if all else fails, I'll give that a try. If anything, my system could most likely use a fresh install of Win7.

Thanks for all the help guys!
 
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I will give that a try as well. I was trying to wrap my head around the PrecX software and noticed those two settings, but wasn't sure exactly what they meant. What exactly does it mean for the 'power target'?
Well since I was coming from AMD, before I installed my NV drivers, I ran DriverFusion to clean up the remaining AMD driver (or at least I hope it did). Then I restarted, and installed NV drivers. I didn't know there was a dedicated display driver uninstaller, though. Good tool to have; thanks!
Yeah, if all else fails, I'll give that a try. If anything, my system could most likely use a fresh install of Win7.

Thanks for all the help guys!

Here you go, last version:

http://www.guru3d.com/files_get/display_driver_uninstaller_download,8.html


Read my article on TDP:

"The PT is the increase of TDP (thermal design power) which is determined by the chips maker (GK110 =250W) but this is not a fixed value, refers to the maximum amount of power the cooling system, in this case a chip, is required to dissipate. The TDP is typically not the most power the chip could ever draw, but the maximum power that it would draw when running "real applications". This ensures the chip will be able to handle essentially all applications without exceeding its thermal envelope, or requiring a cooling system for the maximum theoretical power.
"TDP is meant to be the wattage of the processor at load. I say "wattage" because it is unclear if this is meant to correspond most immediately to how much power is consumed in watts, or how much heat is produced in watts, but as near as I can tell the TDP is pretty much meant to indicate both" GL



(where C is capacitance, f is frequency and V is voltage)

Now, you dont have to make complicated calculus or anything like that because you have this chip here:



It monitors real-time voltage and power draw and its where AB gets its reading from the VRM´s! wink.gif

Stock bios come with 250W TDP (AKA PT) so when its at 100% you will have 250W of power draw, if you increase it to the max stock 106% youll get: 250x106%=265W
The same is with modded 300/400/500W bios what you see in AB or precisionX is the percentage above what you set!
Ex: with a 500W bios (Slider set to maximum of course) you see 60% usage, this equals to: 500x60%=300W
YOU CAN DIRECTLY CONTROL TDP WITH THE SLIDER! thumb.gif

Now, why has AB a 300% slider while PrecisionX uses 200% for the same bios with the same PT?
Well, AB and precision have different interfaces so the readings are different for the same thing, just keep in mind the base TDP value and make your calculations from there
It doesnt matter what the % slider is in any program, just increase it if you having stutters or frame drops and when making calculations always make them from the base TDP with my formula:

aW x b% = cW (a= bios base TDP, b= OSD TDP, c= aproximate power draw
)"


And also have a read here for some pointers, my OC guide: OCCAMRAZOR ADVANCED GK110 OC GUIDE



Cheers

Ed

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Edited by OccamRazor - 3/7/14 at 6:08am
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Here you go, last version:

http://www.guru3d.com/files_get/display_driver_uninstaller_download,8.html


Read my article on TDP:

"The PT is the increase of TDP (thermal design power) which is determined by the chips maker (GK110 =250W) but this is not a fixed value, refers to the maximum amount of power the cooling system, in this case a chip, is required to dissipate. The TDP is typically not the most power the chip could ever draw, but the maximum power that it would draw when running "real applications". This ensures the chip will be able to handle essentially all applications without exceeding its thermal envelope, or requiring a cooling system for the maximum theoretical power.
"TDP is meant to be the wattage of the processor at load. I say "wattage" because it is unclear if this is meant to correspond most immediately to how much power is consumed in watts, or how much heat is produced in watts, but as near as I can tell the TDP is pretty much meant to indicate both" GL



(where C is capacitance, f is frequency and V is voltage)

Now, you dont have to make complicated calculus or anything like that because you have this chip here:



It monitors real-time voltage and power draw and its where AB gets its reading from the VRM´s! wink.gif

Stock bios come with 250W TDP (AKA PT) so when its at 100% you will have 250W of power draw, if you increase it to the max stock 106% youll get: 250x106%=265W
The same is with modded 300/400/500W bios what you see in AB or precisionX is the percentage above what you set!
Ex: with a 500W bios (Slider set to maximum of course) you see 60% usage, this equals to: 500x60%=300W
YOU CAN DIRECTLY CONTROL TDP WITH THE SLIDER! thumb.gif

Now, why has AB a 300% slider while PrecisionX uses 200% for the same bios with the same PT?
Well, AB and precision have different interfaces so the readings are different for the same thing, just keep in mind the base TDP value and make your calculations from there
It doesnt matter what the % slider is in any program, just increase it if you having stutters or frame drops and when making calculations always make them from the base TDP with my formula:

aW x b% = cW (a= bios base TDP, b= OSD TDP, c= aproximate power draw
)"



Cheers

Ed

(Team skyn3t)

Interesting read! Thank you, sir.

Also, just to put my mind at ease, regarding having/needing to up that % slider; does that mean something is possibly wrong somewhere in my system? Such as MB not providing enough power at the PCIe slot, or the PSU possibly going/on the fritz.

Also, should I go straight for 106%, or inch it up one by one?
 
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