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What benefit do the additional power phases and VRM bring exactly?
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what's the best version of 780?

And, is this card necessary for gaming set of 4670k or 4770k to play FPS games @ 1080p?



Or does the 770 do enough with 4670k?


I saw a video for crisis 3 playing 750 ti and 770, there was a difference in graphics settings between the two cards.

750 ti, is on ultra which is pretty powerful card to this point, except no Anti-aliasing and 2X ANISOTROPIC FILTERING

770 is more powerful to get ultra settings, MSAA MEDIUM 4x and 4X ANISOTROPIC FILTERING


so it's obvious that 770 has more advantage in more high quality.


My question, what 780 has over 770? since 770 plays the game on ultra.
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Originally Posted by Majentrix View Post

What benefit do the additional power phases and VRM bring exactly?


VRM's are the components that regulate/feed the current for the core, memory and the cards additional chipset circuits!
"Power" phases are included in the VRM's: (Voltage Regulation Modules)

Read a quote from one of my articles:

"An 8+2 phase system may not necessarily provide any more current than a 4+1 phase if the amount of amperage capacity through out the VRM system is the same; however, the 8+2 phase system would still do so with more efficiency, stability, and with less heat output.
However, as a practical consideration, many VRMs with more phases can supply more power. I mean, assuming you want to output 64A, it's usually cheaper to use sixteen 8A transistors than four 32A transistors. So more phases makes it cheaper to make the VRM more powerful (usually). So a VRM with fewer phases will often (but NOT ALWAYS) be less powerful, since making it more powerful is more expensive."


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Originally Posted by itcharzherp View Post

what's the best version of 780?

And, is this card necessary for gaming set of 4670k or 4770k to play FPS games @ 1080p?
Or does the 770 do enough with 4670k?
I saw a video for crisis 3 playing 750 ti and 770, there was a difference in graphics settings between the two cards.
750 ti, is on ultra which is pretty powerful card to this point, except no Anti-aliasing and 2X ANISOTROPIC FILTERING
770 is more powerful to get ultra settings, MSAA MEDIUM 4x and 4X ANISOTROPIC FILTERING
so it's obvious that 770 has more advantage in more high quality.
My question, what 780 has over 770? since 770 plays the game on ultra.

You need to research a little more about this matter! smile.gif
Look for 780 reviews and you will see a big difference between the 770 and the 780 (both Oc'ed is around 20-25% average) and will give you higher minimum fps!

GTX 780 = 2304 cores
GTX 770 = 1536 cores

However, for 1080P a single GTX770 is enough for the majority of games, but IMO a 780 will do you a better service if OC is needed for a more harsh game!
Any reference 780 can go up to 1300mhz with the voltage mod and that is more than enough for any game out there! (discounting poorly coded games or driver issues)
Games can be CPU limited or GPU limited, any I5 or I7 is enough for single card with a fair CPU OC, SLI is another matter!

Cheers

Ed

(Team skyn3t)
Edited by OccamRazor - 4/21/14 at 6:25am
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Originally Posted by OccamRazor View Post


You need to research a little more about this matter! smile.gif
Look for 780 reviews and you will see a big difference between the 770 and the 780 (both Oc'ed is around 20-25% average) and will give you higher minimum fps!

GTX 780 = 2304 cores
GTX 770 = 1536 cores

However, for 1080P a single GTX770 is enough for the majority of games, but IMO a 780 will do you a better service if OC is needed for a more harsh game!
Any reference 780 can go up to 1300mhz with the voltage mod and that is more than enough for any game out there! (discounting poorly coded games or driver issues)
Games can be CPU limited or GPU limited, any I5 or I7 is enough for single card with a fair CPU OC, SLI is another matter!

Cheers

Ed

(Team skyn3t)


Well ... thank you. The reason I posted in this thread is to get members' opinions and experiences about their cards.

Also, I wanted to know which is the best version of 780's, whether ASUS, MSI .. etc.

I actually not thinking much of 780 because it raised the budget way more expensive. And it's worth to think about and calculate how much extra money over the total and whether it worth.


Moreover, I think 770 is enough for quite time and wait till new cards show up and powerful cards like 780 get a lot cheaper.



Also, I want to ask you, why you mentioned a reference card instead of non-reference which is tuned from manufacturers. And, referring it get to 1300MHz?

So, you mean that a reference card is capable to OC as non-reference?
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Originally Posted by itcharzherp View Post

Well ... thank you. The reason I posted in this thread is to get members' opinions and experiences about their cards.

Also, I wanted to know which is the best version of 780's, whether ASUS, MSI .. etc.

I actually not thinking much of 780 because it raised the budget way more expensive. And it's worth to think about and calculate how much extra money over the total and whether it worth.

Moreover, I think 770 is enough for quite time and wait till new cards show up and powerful cards like 780 get a lot cheaper.

Also, I want to ask you, why you mentioned a reference card instead of non-reference which is tuned from manufacturers. And, referring it get to 1300MHz?

So, you mean that a reference card is capable to OC as non-reference?

There is no best version, you have reference cards and non-reference, reference are all the same, silicon lottery dictates which ones OC more!
EVGA sticks out because of RMA policy!
Lets get one thing clear: reference cards are the ones that all brands have that come from nvidia, non-reference are the ones that each brand develops with some different features, yet have to be subjected to nvidia green light program approval!
All reference 780´s can be overvolted with the AB soft volt mod up to 1,300V and with the Zawarudos voltage tool up to 1,600V, non-reference 780´s can only overvolt to 1,35V (Classified and the Lightning) all other non-reference need a hard mod (soldering) to get over 1,212V.
Read my OC guide for details: OCCAMRAZOR ADVANCED GK110 OC GUIDE


Cheers

Ed

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Edited by OccamRazor - 4/21/14 at 1:16pm
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There is no best version, you have reference cards and non-reference, reference are all the same, silicon lottery dictates which ones OC more!
EVGA sticks out because of RMA policy!
Lets get one thing clear: reference cards are the ones that all brands have that come from nvidia, non-reference are the ones that each brand develops with some different features, yet have to be subjected to nvidia green light program approval!
All reference 780´s can be overvolted with the AB soft volt mod up to 1,300V and with the Zawarudos voltage tool up to 1,600V, non-reference 780´s can only overvolt to 1,35V (Classified and the Lightning) all other non-reference need a hard mod (soldering) to get over 1,212V.
Read my OC guide for details: OCCAMRAZOR ADVANCED GK110 OC GUIDE


Cheers

Ed

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Lightnings with rbby258's voltage tool can go 1.5V +.
I don't know for sure on the classies since I don't have one, but thought with the latest Evga voltage tool the classy 780 (non-ti) could get up to 1.5v as well?
    
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Any word on when the new 6GB GTX 780 are going to be released? I just bought a 3GB EVGA GTX 780 and registered with EVGA step up.

I'm really hoping the 6GB version comes out within the 90 day period.
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^
I literally just got the EVGA step up email less than a hour later stating the program has started.

I haven't looked into it yet. What is the cost to step up?
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Any word on when the new 6GB GTX 780 are going to be released? I just bought a 3GB EVGA GTX 780 and registered with EVGA step up.

I'm really hoping the 6GB version comes out within the 90 day period.

If you just want a 6GB 780 (not the Ti), then you can go ahead and reserve your slot, which will mean that even if it takes 6 months, you lock it in. The Ti however, isn't posted yet.
 
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I have the regular 3GB GTX 780 SC right now. I passed on the Ti.

The step up to a 6GB GTX 780 SC calculated to be about $73.
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