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I've had time to play with mine a bit and it doesn't look like they behave anywhere NEAR as bad as my Titans did on the stock BIOS. I only had one throttling instance, in the Sleeping Dogs bench. Other than that, they stayed at 1.2v the entire time, which was definitely not the case with my Titans. Nvidia fixed whatever the issue was. So...since modded BIOS can raise the power target, it would get rid of the brief throttle I had in Sleeping Dogs, but for the most part it wouldn't make much of a difference really. I don't throttle like I did with my Titans, so, I'm no longer looking forward to modded BIOSs unless they can magically raise the voltage (which I know they can't).

I'm getting similar behavior to the Titan, it seems to want to throttle for no reason, even without any limits being reached, though it will only do it slightly. The problem I'm having with my MSI card though, is that for whatever reason, there is no 1.187v stepping. It will run 1.2v and 1.175, but it treats the +25 step as 1.175 as well. So this minor throttling i've seen is actually causing my benchmark runs to crash, because the card will drop, say 12-15 MHZ, (for no reason relating to temp/power limits), but instead of dropping to 1.187v it drops from 1.2v to 1.175v and crashes.

I think I might try a vbios from EVGA or somebody and see if it gives me 1.187v, because it's pretty irritating, even that 3187 valley run I finished, only finished because it managed to survive that large vcore drop off for no apparent reason.

Hmm. I guess the issue isn't completely fixed then. Mine only dropped that once, for a second. What were you running that they throttled? I guess you'd benefit from a modded BIOS then. I'll probably get it just for the hell of it, because it only takes a few seconds to do.
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And will my hx 750 be enough when i do go sli...

Short answer yes its enough
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Hmmm.....so if someone wants to Tri-SLI Titan, according to you he/she must invest in a 3000watt PSU?

I don't mind someone recommending overkill units, but saying its necessary for a single card is just plain silly.

A quality 450w unit can handle an oc'ed GTX780 easily, with a GTX460 as mentioned earlier consuming less than 80w if used as a PhysX card......

650w is more than enough to run such a setup.


I didn't say necessary. That's just my suggestion- it's what I would do. If you're going to drop $700 on a video card, you may as well get better than a 650w three-year old PSU. Otherwise, he can do what he damn well pleases.

From Guru 3D "GeForce GTX 780 - On your average system the card requires you to have a 550 Watt power supply unit". Now I just showed advanced physx in my previous post kick Metros ass with a dedicated PPU. You think that GTX 460 is really only pulling 35w under a full physx load? I've seen the stats in afterburner. My GTX 650 ramps up to game speeds with 35% GPU usage. Mind you, my card is more efficient than a 460. Let's say 50w for the dedicated 460 PPU, just to be safe. That's 600w. To me.. that's pushing it, especially when you're overclocking, which we all pretty much are. I don't see it being silly. I see... "what the heck...might as well get a better power supply".thumb.gif
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Wow. This ACX cooler is amazing. Even 100% fan speed can barely be heard over my case fans, and it's a very soft noise too, seems much softer than the blower on the references/Titan. Did a Valley run @ 1.2v and max temp was 54C eek.gif

I know a lot of people have been waiting for results...I should have a good amount of them soon. They'll also be comparing my Titan results, obtained on release drivers also, when I compared my Titan to my 680 Lightning. The 3 best cards' performance comparisons shall be posted shortly smile.gif

This is great to hear....I am curious, what previous aftermarket cooled cards were you using besides the 680 Lightning? Is the ACX much quieter than an MSI 680 Lightning fans?
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Well I ordered mine next day air when they hit newegg while I was at a friends wedding and it will not arrive until after labor day mad.gif me and newegg will be having a chat about that little gem of news sozo.gif
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Well I ordered mine next day air when they hit newegg while I was at a friends wedding and it will not arrive until after labor day mad.gif me and newegg will be having a chat about that little gem of news sozo.gif

Couple of points here, I just want to point out this probably isn't newegg's fault.

1) UPS only works on business days. Next day air is next business day, which is an industry standard phrase for the shipping business meaning MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY. I don't know if you're new to shipping, but it has been like this for decades. That said, UPS does have a special saturday next day air but it costs more than normal next day air and 99% of businesses will never use it. It is very expensive unless you're using something like amazon prime, where amazon prime gets ridiculous discounts from UPS. Everywhere else, expect monday through friday excluding holidays. 99% of retailers will not ever use saturday next day air, and yes it's only available with next day air, it's incredibly cost prohibitive.

2) Monday is not a working day. UPS is not delivering on monday, obviously, because it's a holiday, Memorial day.

3) Lastly, newegg has a cut-off time for next day air or 2DA. That is noon eastern if i'm not mistaken. If you order past this, it will ship the next business day (AGAIN, BUSINESS DAYS IN THE SHIPPING BUSINESS MEANS MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY EXCLUDING HOLIDAYS)

Before you complain to newegg, realize that this is probably not their fault. UPS and Fedex work Monday through Friday, and getting anything shipped or delivered on a Sat is a premium service that 99% of online retailers do not use. Because it's incredibly expensive. Also realize what "next day air" means. That is next business day (monday through friday excluding holidays). I've been a business owner in the past so I can state that most people complaining about shipping aren't familiar with UPS/Fedex - I'm not excluding the possibility if it being newegg's fault, but it isn't likely.
Edited by xoleras - 5/26/13 at 7:50pm
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Hey guys 2 quick questions, 1) Do all the reference 780 in this case the galaxy brand have the lit geforce logo..2) And will my hx 750 be enough when i do go sli...

for reference, I can't get my 3770K@ 4.5 and 780@1150/1700 to pull more than 400w from the wall in a gaming or benchmark situation. My PSU runs about 90% efficiency (AX850).
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I will be off to shrinkless my PSU and add 4 more wires to my PSU. I only have Four 6pin connectors for my 670's so I'll need two 6pin and two 8pin connector for my 780's biggrin.gif I will been monitoring it by my mini10 and SG4.

PS: Great work guys thumb.gif This is why OCN is one of most famous site because we make it happen.
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I'm just going to throw some numbers out, and y'all can interpret them how you want. I have my system hooked to a UPS that has a power usage in watts readout.

Baseline desktop idle: 56W

Metro LL No PhysX: 370W peak, 320-340W average.

Metro LL PhysX: 369W peak, 340-360W average.

At 50% usage the AX 750 is around 90% efficient, so the actual watts on the PC component side of the PSU would be 90% of those numbers.

So, with efficiency factored in:

Baseline desktop idle: 50.4W

Metro LL No PhysX: 333W peak, 288-306W average.

Metro LL PhysX: 332.1W peak, 306-324W average.

Granted, this is probably not the most punishing test out there, and there's no way I am running Prime95 FFT and Furmark at the same time. I'd rather not melt anything down. tongue.gif

But between 250W max for the GPU and ~105W max for the CPU, that gets you up to 355, which is spitting distance of the load pulled on this benchmark. Obviously each person's specific CPU max watts would need to be factored into their decisions.

Now. Why do GPU makers recommend 600+W PSUs? Two reasons: there is no telling how many amps a given power supply will have on the 12V rail, and two, PSUs lead happier, longer lives when not run to the limit. Keeping them around half capacity is the way to go really.

780 + PhysX card on a 650W? Fine.

SLI 780s on a 650W? No way. 600+W of draw is way to close, and that's not even taking into account how much of the rated 650W is on the 12V rail.

SLI 780s on a 750W? Frisky, but likely not dangerous with a 4-core CPU.

For SLI 780s the absolute minimum I would recommend and feel safe in doing so would be an 850W.
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Does anyone have a mirror for the modded vbios on TI? I don't want to have to register and make several posts just to download it.

Just buy an elite membership then, mirroring it is effectively warez.
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