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So I'm looking to buy some 3-4TB hard drives but I don't like what I'm seeing. I normally would take reviews on Newegg with a hefty grain of salt or two, but the issues with both Seagate & Western Digital Reds seems to be rather systemic at the 3TB+ capacities. Does anyone know if this was a bad batch type of issue and there are no longer issues or is it really this systemic with the high capacity drives?

Edit: Or do you think this is related to people trying to boot without UEFI as well?

Edit 2: Forgot to mention this is for a NAS setup
Edited by NameUnknown - 5/23/13 at 7:35am
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Honestly, the best thing to do would be to buy those drives and keep a backup of them. Not RAID, but a backup that you can take offline and store in a safe place. I run my computer, with 3TB storage 3TB backup and I feel pretty secure that if my storage drives were to fail, I could RMA them and reload the backed up contents back onto the new drive.
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So aside from the standard backup routine, there is no way to avoid this with the newer high capacity drives?
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The idea was to put these all in a NAS and have 2 drive parity so I can lose up to 2 drives and keep running. Ideally I would also be backing up with snapshots to another array which would be a 1 drive parity to keep costs down. Looking at this setup requires almost a grand in new drives though which is kind of brutal on the budget. Is there any other way to do that for less without sacrificing drive quality either? If it means going to 2TB drives I can do that, was using 3TB drives for expandability.
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I wish I had more that I could tell you about these new high cap drives. I think the failure rates may seem higher than they actually are, and hopefully they are really good. I can only direct you to Sean Webster's Data Backup Guide in terms of pointing out that RAID is not a good solution to prevent loss of data.
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So aside from the standard backup routine, there is no way to avoid this with the newer high capacity drives?

I have had no problems with my 3TB WD Red. But if you absolutely need something that will live long, your best bet is probably WD Greens unless you want to shell out the big bucks for RE4s.

It's over the network, speed isn't exactly a concern here.
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I wish I had more that I could tell you about these new high cap drives. I think the failure rates may seem higher than they actually are, and hopefully they are really good. I can only direct you to Sean Webster's Data Backup Guide in terms of pointing out that RAID is not a good solution to prevent loss of data.

Oh I know its not a backup. FreeNAS has a feature they call snaphots where it makes an image of your data in another location you specify. I'm not counting on a mirror by any means. Mirrors can bring over corrupted data which ruins your "backup". But with the snapshot its a second copy of your data on another drive/array which can be archived, moved, deleted, read, etc. Its quite the nice feature imo.

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I have had no problems with my 3TB WD Red. But if you absolutely need something that will live long, your best bet is probably WD Greens unless you want to shell out the big bucks for RE4s.

It's over the network, speed isn't exactly a concern here.
True true, speed isn't a huge concern. Would love to get RE4s but I'm not shelling out the cash or budget for them. Greens just make me uneasy because of the 2 year warranty compared to the Blacks 5 year warranty. Reds have 3 which is low, but a sort of minimum imo. Yet they are so new nobody has a real good grasp on them yet. That being said, how well do the greens hold up packed together like sardines?
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I have 4 WD green 3 TBs some ive had as long as 3 years, no failures. May I suggest arranging the reviews by date and seeing if theres any recent complaints from new owners?
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I wish I had more that I could tell you about these new high cap drives. I think the failure rates may seem higher than they actually are, and hopefully they are really good. I can only direct you to Sean Webster's Data Backup Guide in terms of pointing out that RAID is not a good solution to prevent loss of data.

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I have had no problems with my 3TB WD Red. But if you absolutely need something that will live long, your best bet is probably WD Greens unless you want to shell out the big bucks for RE4s.

It's over the network, speed isn't exactly a concern here.
True true, speed isn't a huge concern. Would love to get RE4s but I'm not shelling out the cash or budget for them. Greens just make me uneasy because of the 2 year warranty compared to the Blacks 5 year warranty. Reds have 3 which is low, but a sort of minimum imo. Yet they are so new nobody has a real good grasp on them yet. That being said, how well do the greens hold up packed together like sardines?

Slower, quieter, and cooler, they're actually the best for it probably.

All of WD's homebrew NAS systems and most of their external HDDs use "unmarked" Caviar Greens. While I have had Blues die on me, and I've had many Scorpions die on me, I haven't had any Caviar Green, Red or Black die on me yet.

I can understand the warranty concerns, but WD uses greens in everything under the sun and seems to have a very low failure rate.
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