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post #11 of 36
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Originally Posted by GrizzleBoy View Post

There may be a market, but its quite a small one in the scheme of things.

Even if OEMs started selling laptops with decent discrete gpus and powerful cpus for the price of budget machines, it wouldn't make a difference.

Performance is not what the people want these days. They want convenience and mobility. Even the mythical "android lag" couldn't stop Samsung shifting over ten million GS4s in a record 25 days for their GS line.

The market for powerful notebooks (beyond CPU power) is pretty niche imo and is certainly not where/how OEMs are going to make money.

Well there are problems associated with powerful notebooks. particularly battery drain and pricing. I see those Asus ROG notebooks at my work place all the time and I cringe every time someone buys one.

They have a 2 hour battery life... and they're extremely bulky and heavy. May as well buy or build a nice desktop at that price point.

Tabs and Hybrids have much better battery life.
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post #12 of 36
Whatever, I'm loving my Win8 touchscreen Ultrabook...
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gotta disagree

If the laptops are really slow, really with poor display, guess what, its because you the manufacturers make them so

It's all about where you put the effort. Everyone found money in the tablet pond, so everyone stays there and try to fish some of that money while leaving other ponds empty, that's how the tablets evolved so quickly.

what a wrong perspective to look at the tablet boom
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post #14 of 36
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Well there are problems associated with powerful notebooks. particularly battery drain and pricing. I see those Asus ROG notebooks at my work place all the time and I cringe every time someone buys one.

They have a 2 hour battery life... and they're extremely bulky and heavy. May as well buy or build a nice desktop at that price point.

Tabs and Hybrids have much better battery life.

Show me a tablet or hybrid which can:

1. Fluidly run multiple CAD applications or multiple engineering simulations.
2. Easily, comfortably, and efficiently function as a mobile CAD workstation.

Most of the people using high end laptops don't care about battery life, they know its going to be bad. They use them because they need the power to run specific applications. Thats why this market segment will not fall to tablets and hybrids.
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post #15 of 36
I've been playing around with a couple of new devices; a tablet from Lenovo and a Lenovo twist. The twist is a good device for taking to customer sites for presentations and other simple work especially since it has a keyboard. I am still struggling to find anything useful to do with the tablet except play games due to big hands and a crappy touch screen keyboard. I am going to try out one of the docking keyboards to see if it's small size renders it useless or not.
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post #16 of 36
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Show me a tablet or hybrid which can:

1. Fluidly run multiple CAD applications or multiple engineering simulations.
2. Easily, comfortably, and efficiently function as a mobile CAD workstation.

Most of the people using high end laptops don't care about battery life, they know its going to be bad. They use them because they need the power to run specific applications. That's why this market segment will not fall to tablets and hybrids.

Mostly agree. I need my Asus 17" laptop for some cad work and use it more than my new twist despite the battery life. I rarely find myself working on drawings without a power socket nearby anyway. That and the fact I usually want to use my Wacom for input.
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post #17 of 36
"Netbook" maybe.

But if they think anything in the realm of the Precision and like-class laptops is going away, they're nuts.
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Well there are problems associated with powerful notebooks. particularly battery drain and pricing. I see those Asus ROG notebooks at my work place all the time and I cringe every time someone buys one.

They have a 2 hour battery life... and they're extremely bulky and heavy. May as well buy or build a nice desktop at that price point.

Tabs and Hybrids have much better battery life.

Show me a tablet or hybrid which can:

1. Fluidly run multiple CAD applications or multiple engineering simulations.
2. Easily, comfortably, and efficiently function as a mobile CAD workstation.

Most of the people using high end laptops don't care about battery life, they know its going to be bad. They use them because they need the power to run specific applications. Thats why this market segment will not fall to tablets and hybrids.

Bingo.

Sometimes Desktops are out of the question. That's when you need laptops only Dell, HP and Lenovo can provide, with FirePros, Quadros, and even Teslas in them. biggrin.gif
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post #18 of 36
I honestly can't look at my laptop anymore and take it seriously. I want that Sony Duo 11!! Tis so sexy
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Mostly agree. I need my Asus 17" laptop for some cad work and use it more than my new twist despite the battery life. I rarely find myself working on drawings without a power socket nearby anyway. That and the fact I usually want to use my Wacom for input.

Yeah, its surprising how many people need CAD performance and semi-portability. It's just easier to lug a heavy laptop around than to have to copy your stuff from your office pc everyday.

The sole purpose of the battery in a high-end laptop is so you can get to the next wall socket.
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It was a dying market even with just tablets; hybrids are the finisher wink.gif
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