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I just realized i know that guy. A while ago i was a bit of an anime nut and i joined bakabt.me while it was still boxtorrents, and even then this guy was still at the top of the uploaders list. Chatted with him a few times too on their official irc channel, dude was pretty cool.

Now, as for what he burns that bandwidth on: http://bakabt.me/user/12057/houkouonchi.html
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Uploaded 2036.48 TB - (7.41 MB/s)
2 Petabytes of upload since he joined. His upload is so insane his seed ratio is effectively infinite.
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post #152 of 174
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Yea, he did. Problem is Vz also changed the clause from business servers to just servers. Charging 60% more for the same service, so a user does not violate any potential interpretations of a purposefully restrictive and vague contract for a utility is bogus. They intentionally created a legal loophole to charge more for the same service. This is a problem, the internet is a utility which is being unregulated and greatly exploited by these massive telecoms throughout the country. I'm all for any of these telecoms to get screwed, even just a little bit.

Besides which, they likely still make money from him as a customer at residential rates regardless of the bandwidth he was consuming.

If this was eating away at a small margin they were operating on, I wouldn't be nearly as inclined to side with him. The fact of the matter is these telecoms are making so much money from internet service, it is absolutely ridiculous that any person with common sense side with them. Yes, they have the legal rights based on the contract to do this, but no I don't believe they should have the right to gouge the populace of the nation on a utility. I say this as someone who verizon has screwed in the past with their careful 3pt font fine print, where they use inexact buzzwords to explain how you're allowed to use the service.
Actually, business class service is not exactly the same as consumer service.

The big difference is that business class is in the service level agreement (SLA). Your uptime is more important than consumer class.
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Just wow! His setup....drool.gif

I wonder how it compares to deeeebs' crazy 120+ core folding server...?
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I just got a letter 2 days ago from Cox Communications(AZ) wanting me to upgrade my plan since I used 250Gb of data this month from using Netflix and Hulu+ rolleyes.gif

Ha! I got one too a couple months ago. That wasn't even when GF downloaded like all of the Stargates ever. rolleyes.gifbiggrin.gif
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Deeeebs has more compute but does require much data at all
 
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Anyone who thinks this is about a ToS violation for "servers" is wrong. VZ contacted several people about bandwidth usage. One guy was doing 90-100TB/month (mostly inbound) consistently was not even running servers and they are saying they won't even allow his usage on small business. I guess he is violating their ToS for 'exessive traffic.' As yes VZ has a clause in their ToS for excessive traffic, even on their small business plan.


Trust me when I say this was all about the bandwidth usage. Nothing more.

You really think this still about running servers?

More usage on VZ FIOS costs verizon almost nothing so it surprises me why they would go through the trouble of going after people for this. Unlike cable VZ does not have the same high costs to increase capacity at the last mile nor has the same type of limitations/congestion issues at last mile which is where bandwidth usage is expensive for everyone else (not really for FIOS).
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People need to quit complaining so much. Verizon is a company, they can have whatever policy they want. If you want something, fine. But dont go calling them an evil company for not being perfect
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People need to quit complaining so much. Verizon is a company, they can have whatever policy they want. If you want something, fine. But dont go calling them an evil company for not being perfect

rolleyes.gif

No one is faulting Verizon for "not being perfect," they are, however taking issue with the fact that Verizon clearly advertises their service as "unlimited" then impose limits on it.
 
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rolleyes.gif

No one is faulting Verizon for "not being perfect," they are, however taking issue with the fact that Verizon clearly advertises their service as "unlimited" then impose limits on it.

verizon uses tiered service structure, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiered_service

if the lowest tier of their service is truly unlimited, what makes it any different from their higher tiers? there has to be a limit in some way.
this is not like you got scammed or anything like that, because you are not in a binding contract, if you don't like the 77tb limit then ditch them, go find another isp.
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verizon uses tiered service structure, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiered_service

if the lowest tier of their service is truly unlimited, what makes it any different from their higher tiers? there has to be a limit in some way.
this is not like you got scammed or anything like that, because you are not in a binding contract, if you don't like the 77tb limit then ditch them, go find another isp.


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Someone get him to join the overclock.net whatpulse team please, we need to dethrone borandi from #1 as far as bandwidth goes biggrin.gif
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