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No one is faulting Verizon for "not being perfect," they are, however taking issue with the fact that Verizon clearly advertises their service as "unlimited" then impose limits on it.
Is it actually named unlimited or something like it. Here they are saying its basically unlimited in their descriptions but then use the word "free"
seems "free" means a 300GB limit for instance.
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Kinda sucks really. Shows how most ISP's operate in America. They advertise you unlimited service then guess what, it's not so unlimited, there's now limitations in the contract. I just hope America get's their business model's in line. It's very concerning how much control these corporations have over their customers....

erm... it's kinda like that around the entire world afaik, how would everyone like it if everyone starting buying server racks and start putting them on 24/7. We'd all get throttled to hell
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erm... it's kinda like that around the entire world afaik, how would everyone like it if everyone starting buying server racks and start putting them on 24/7. We'd all get throttled to hell

Throttled to hell or they will jack up the prices for everyone.
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Anyone who thinks this is about a ToS violation for "servers" is wrong. VZ contacted several people about bandwidth usage. One guy was doing 90-100TB/month (mostly inbound) consistently was not even running servers and they are saying they won't even allow his usage on small business. I guess he is violating their ToS for 'exessive traffic.' As yes VZ has a clause in their ToS for excessive traffic, even on their small business plan.


Trust me when I say this was all about the bandwidth usage. Nothing more.

You really think this still about running servers?

More usage on VZ FIOS costs verizon almost nothing so it surprises me why they would go through the trouble of going after people for this. Unlike cable VZ does not have the same high costs to increase capacity at the last mile nor has the same type of limitations/congestion issues at last mile which is where bandwidth usage is expensive for everyone else (not really for FIOS).

We can't base any decisions on anything outside of what we all know. They may or may not have contacted several people about it.

If you're making it to 77-100+ TB of bandwidth, they obviously don't care about bandwidth or they would have realized who was using sooo much earlier on, not month and months later. They contacted the high usage users not necessarily because of the amount of data used but to see why and if anything was unexpected.

They do have an excessive usage clause in the ToS, and guess what, they are allowed to have that, but, to me anyways, they didn't seem to really apply that in this situation.

Bandwidth might be incredibly cheap compared to pretty much everything else, but there is still a cost and still a need to monitor the usages and balance those out to ensure everyone on their service is getting what they paid for.

Go through so much trouble? Trouble in what sense? Ensure that no one is taking advantage of them?
 
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He knew that he was in violation of the TOS before he even got the connection. When you have that much equipment and even have your own CoLo you can't play ignorant. and when you are 30,000% higher than the average consumer you are affecting the network. I'm surprised it took them that long to contact him.

Not when its an unlimited plan my friend, he cant effect the rest of the network unless they are doing the dodgy on the other end and over prescribing the exchanges....
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Throttled to hell or they will jack up the prices for everyone.

in our TOS theres a thing called fair use policy where it states if you use a ridiculously high amount of bandwidth theyre just going to cap you for the day. Not sure if the same happens in the states
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On a planet with finite resources, technically there is nothing that is "unlimited". All the people who are busting Verizons chops for this yahoo knowingly violating the ToS just need to stop.
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At least you guys can enjoy "unlimited" quota plans in some form. In AU, 99% of plans are limited to set quotas, and once that quota is reached your connection speed is throttled or you get charged for excess data.
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At least you guys can enjoy "unlimited" quota plans in some form. In AU, 99% of plans are limited to set quotas, and once that quota is reached your connection speed is throttled or you get charged for excess data.

Who's you guys? From where I'm sitting this is not just an AU problem.
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