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How long had you switched to residential before they contacted you?

4 months maybe? The thing is though for like 1+ year back in the day I used to do probably 15-20TB/month back in 2010-2011 with one residential and one business connection and not a peep. The reason being just to get two ONT's at the same address basically requried doing business + residential.

Also several other people were contacted (who used even more bandwidth than I did) and all on the same day. I am pretty sure this is the first time VZ has ever contacted people about bw usage.

Funny enough the 30+ hours on the phone it took me to get upgraded to GPON and other billing/account snafu stuff probably cost VZ more than my bandwidth usage but whatever...
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Originally Posted by Sm0keydaBear View Post

Ummm, doesn't answer the question. You said he APPEARS to be using it as a business connection but he has states explicitly that it is for family and friends. The way you put it, is that he's guilty and needs to be proven innocent...

Just to clarify I do not own a business. I make absolutely 0 income from my servers. I help people on forums and IM all the time for stuff and lots of times people have wanted to paypal me some money but i generally always refuse as I don't help people with stuff to make money.
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Except there are differences to business accounts and residential accounts...

A business account is for businesses, and he does appear to be using it as such. Just because he has some personal needs using the connection as well doesn't mean it's just for personal use.

He said that he switched because of pricing, so that's the only thing he appears to care about, not just the company caring about the lost funds.

Either way, no matter how you look at it, he is in the wrong because he did break the ToS. That's entirely what the ToS is there for. Whether they adhere to it strictly or not is something else all together. He clearly though shouldn't be using a residential connection. He's just doing it to save money and abusing it. He got caught, deal with it.

What about the guy who did not break the ToS and they said his usage is not acceptable even on a small business plan?
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What about the guy who did not break the ToS and they said his usage is not acceptable even on a small business plan?

I didn't see that in the article...

I don't see people using dozens of TB and not breaking the ToS...
 
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Article states that he is violating TOS because you're not allowed to run a server under the residential plan.

That's my point.... the user didn't discover anything about "limits", nothing was preventing him from using more bandwidth, other than him actually being caught violating TOS.

I don't get the point of the article and misleading thread title...

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4 months maybe? The thing is though for like 1+ year back in the day I used to do probably 15-20TB/month back in 2010-2011 with one residential and one business connection and not a peep. The reason being just to get two ONT's at the same address basically requried doing business + residential.

Also several other people were contacted (who used even more bandwidth than I did) and all on the same day. I am pretty sure this is the first time VZ has ever contacted people about bw usage.

Funny enough the 30+ hours on the phone it took me to get upgraded to GPON and other billing/account snafu stuff probably cost VZ more than my bandwidth usage but whatever...

Some manager probably wanted to feel useful so had them go warn the top 20 bandwidth users or something.
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I didn't see that in the article...

I don't see people using dozens of TB and not breaking the ToS...

The article was missing a lot of information including information I gave the guy but whatever. I didn't realize it was to put me more in the spotlight more than VZ about actually going after high bandwidth users which was unheard of.

The thread is here:

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r28309842-LOL.-VZ-called-me-about-my-bandwidth-usage.-Gotta-go-Biz.

The serge87 user does web crawling/indexing and stuff and doesn't actually run a listening service. Not really a 'server' by how I define what a server is but who knows what VZ considers to be a server. AFAIK they didn't bring up anything about ToS violations in his case except maybe excessive usage?
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The article was missing a lot of information including information I gave the guy but whatever. I didn't realize it was to put me more in the spotlight more than VZ about actually going after high bandwidth users which was unheard of.

The thread is here:

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r28309842-LOL.-VZ-called-me-about-my-bandwidth-usage.-Gotta-go-Biz.

The serge87 user does web crawling/indexing and stuff and doesn't actually run a listening service. Not really a 'server' by how I define what a server is but who knows what VZ considers to be a server. AFAIK they didn't bring up anything about ToS violations in his case except maybe excessive usage?

That bolded part is kind of important, lol.

I'm presuming a fair chunk of that comes from backups to an offsite server or something along those lines. Hard to judge his case without more info.

Going off that article though, and what you have said here, I don't see what the big deal is all about, you admitted to breaking the ToS, you admit that moving up to Business class isn't a big deal and that it was just a money thing.
 
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Hmm. That is a lot of data. Made me check my router to find 'only' 42902436 Ethernet packets were transmitted (150Mb connection). Not even close to him.
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