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They have a multi billion dollar budget? Really? What are you smoking? The ignorance bandwagon, that's what you're smoking. You don't know how much work goes into creating an engine from scratch, the potential problems that can occur, how it's not exactly easy to hire a boat load of qualified and experienced engineers and devs, or any of the logistics. Don't forget, even if you have 5,000 devs working on something, they still have to be working in unison. That said, you probably also can't even tell what improvements would be made from a new engine that can't be done on their current engine. You guys make engines out to be a marketing gimmick. So passionate about something you know very little about.

Also, I suggest some of you listen a bit to this video, specifically 3:40-6:00

http://youtu.be/VdAv7Q-XNHQ?t=3m40s

For those of you who don't know who he is, he's a CoD commentator who was a full time software developer before youtube. He's probably more qualified than most.

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And what makes you think Activision doesn't have the funds to support that? Especially since they make billions every year from Call of Duty sales and they make more every year........ It doesn't matter how hard it would be to develop a new engine. Companies that make less (sometimes much less) can still do it. Why not them? OH WAIT! They don't have to. That's why they're still using an engine that's from 1996 and making billions from doing nothing extra.

They probably do have the fund to support it, if it's possible, at least. It may very well not be possible to hire enough staff qualified enough and be able to get it done in time. It's a huge risk. One with little to no reward. Again, if you watched the video and had a little knowledge you would know why they wouldn't do that. The next call of Duty does use a new engine, just because it's a modified version does not mean it's not new.

Most, if not all, new engines are based off of the previous ones. Do you not see the flaw in your argument? Just because the Infinity Ward dev was honest enough to say that the engine was a modified version of the previous one, everyone comes out to flame them.
    
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Are you serious? Do you know what the Baret .50 cal is made for? It's an anti-tank round. We aren't talking about personal rounds, we are talking about solid blocks of steel. If you do not understand the repercussion of that round, you are not very adept in ammunition.

You ever see the movie sniper? A .50 caliber sniper rifle tears apart a person. it's made for anti-tank, what the heck do you think it does to human flesh?

Regardless, your opinion is pretty much crap. And I do mean crap. This is a .50 round sniper file, do you know what a remington 700 does? No, I doubt it. What is the range of a 30/6? Around 600 yards, and it's very devastation on a human target. A 50 is insanity, you sir are a disgrace to real life ammunition.

[edit] A 30/6 is really about 800 yards, a .50 cal sniper rifle..... I swear, if you were in the army I'd shoot you.

[edit 2] Any questions?

I swear if you were from the military then you should resign before being made fun of. I also love how you use a movie for an example of how a .50 BMG affects a human being hahaha. Again you have lost all credibility. Also it's .30-06 not 30/6 lol. I also hope you know that the Remington 700 doesn't only come in .30-06..... never mind you watched the movie shooter too much so you must be a sniper rifle pro.

Indeed. The Baret .50 is anti-material not anti tank. BIG difference. A .50 will barely scratch modern tank armor.

This is a anti-tank rifle

Lahti L-39 20mm




Even this monster using 20mm armor piercing ammo has not been able to take out tanks after the late WW2 due to tanks getting thicker and better armor.
    
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I sort of guessed this when I saw the crappy 2D foamy water effects in the Xbox One reveal rolleyes.gif
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I swear if you were from the military then you should resign before being made fun of. I also love how you use a movie for an example of how a .50 BMG affects a human being hahaha. Again you have lost all credibility. Also it's .30-06 not 30/6 lol. I also hope you know that the Remington 700 doesn't only come in .30-06..... never mind you watched the movie shooter too much so you must be a sniper rifle pro.

It was used as an example of a lesser weapon, as a 30-06 is smaller than an r700. I know what it's called, just being lazy. And it's actually just a standard .300 round, the name is just the adoption of the gun.

I've had an affinity for guns, not really sniper rifles. I'm no nut, or "enthusiast". Just real about it, had friends who were nuts. If I wanted questions asked, they would be the ones to answer.


http://www.officer.com/article/10250550/surviving-being-shot
" Your first goal must be neutralizing the suspect. Additional wounds or death may result if you stop defending yourself and focus on your injuries. This has been a recommendation for field medical personnel in the military, based on combat experience in Iraq. You cannot render aid when the enemy is still up and shooting at you or the wounded personnel. Stay in the fight! There have been recorded incidents in law enforcement of officers succumbing to non-vital wounds because they panicked and gave up, and yet I have a coworker that survived a .308 wound to the abdomen that blew out a fist sized hole in his back. He never stopped and never dropped. He got his pistol out and returned fire as he moved backward to safe cover. Only after the shooting was over did he communicate his situation to other officers on scene and on the radio. Training should emphasize that an officer must not relax and must engage in follow-through movements. These include but are not limited to:"

My favorite thing however was how well certain bullet sizes wound, not exactly the guns themselves. I've memorized the weapons that would be on my "want" list in case of an apocalyptic situation. Needless to say, a .30-06 is probably the first in long range rifle (that was a .308 example but a .300 round is nothing to scuff at). I'd also want a 12 gauge, slug. The pistol I'd aim for is probably a 9mm, though having a .22 pistol wouldn't be a bad idea either. A .308 is the 2nd gun on my list of rifles, hence why I understand what it does.

Seriously, the movie Shooter was pretty close in some of the scenes for what those guns do. A .50 call will remove your limbs, it was ment for an engine block. Further more, if you watched the special commentary where the US Military talks about the movie and a shot like that, you'd understand more. But wait, I can quote that too!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooter_(film)
"the special features of the DVD, Garrity is interviewed pointing out that the shot fired in the assassination would not have hit the archbishop straight on, as in the film. When a round is fired it will fall from 30–40 feet depending on the distance of the shot. To compensate, the round is fired at an arc calibrated by how far the round is going to fall, the distance of the shot, temperature, humidity, wind and the curvature of the earth. In his interview Garrity said "At 1,800 yards, because of the hydrostatic shock that follows a large caliber, high velocity round such as the .408 Chey Tac (which is used in the shot), the target would literally be peeled apart and limbs would be flying 200 feet away". The exit wound on the archbishop's head would have been too extreme to show in movie theaters. Instead, the movie depicts a much less graphic representation of the assassination."

It was a nice movie and I watched the special features cause as I've said, gun nut friends. Regardless, a .50 cal can split your body granted variables do come into play.
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Indeed. The Baret .50 is anti-material not anti tank. BIG difference. A .50 will barely scratch modern tank armor.

This is a anti-tank rifle

Lahti L-39 20mm




Even this monster using 20mm armor piercing ammo has not been able to take out tanks after the late WW2 due to tanks getting thicker and better armor.

http://www.militaryfactory.com/smallarms/detail.asp?smallarms_id=29

No, it is used as an anti-tank weapon or at least that was one of it's original design intentions. Not all tanks are designed for heavy armor, and other things come into play. [edit: clarity] anti-material is a more modern term, you don't really see anti-tank used as a weapon's description. I'm tired and my stomach hurts like I've got razor blades in it, time for some bi-carbonates! -=furthermore=- As I thought, anti-tank weapons are now classed as anti-material. Modern tanks with medium/heavy armor aren't really taken out by guns. You take them out with explosives, generally pretty hefty ones.
Edited by mushroomboy - 5/25/13 at 1:54am
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If a .50 BMG hits you center mass it will NOT cut you in half. If it would hit say and arm or leg and hit a bone to dismember it from you then that's a different story. If it hit your head then of course it will split your head. But again we are talking about center mass here which contains many organs. You can easily google .50 BMG wounds to animals such as deer and you can see what damage it really does. That is a real world example not taken from a movie. I would post it here but that would be too graphic.
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If a .50 BMG hits you center mass it will NOT cut you in half. If it would hit say and arm or leg and hit a bone to dismember it from you then that's a different story. If it hit your head then of course it will split your head. But again we are talking about center mass here which contains many organs. You can easily google .50 BMG wounds to animals such as deer and you can see what damage it really does. That is a real world example not taken from a movie. I would post it here but that would be too graphic.

Depends on how far the shot was, generally the farther the shot the more damage it does. By then you probably won't be hit as a straight through ab shot either, the ark will come into play. Did you even bother reading the quote from a .408 about the 1800 yard shot? No, I doubt it. That isn't a .50 either. Closer shots are generally less intense, again variables come into play.
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Honestly, I am not surprised that it is not a brand new engine, even tho I am more than sure they have the manpower and the money to make one. How-ever, I am not going to exactly judge it and say it will look the same as the previous CoD games until I truly see screen shot of it maxed out on PC. I love FPS shooters, and honestly as much as I love graphics in games, I still enjoy CS 1.6 and CS:GO, as well as CoD BO2. They feel responsive and just feel right for a gaming FPS. I'm not playing a game for it to be realistic, I'm rather playing it to test my responsive and twitch shooting skills against other players. And no game does that better than CoD or Counter Strike.
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Huh...double post? The forum's lagging a bit today.
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