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can we make this thread a sticky? I know they haven't done an about face but this is the perfect example of how public backlash does actually impact how companies behave. Bad press is actually bad. And that "voting with your wallet" isn't the only way to influence companies.

Now I realize microsoft is probably just saving face and trying to make things murkier and not actually doing anything. But the fact that they made such a statement means they're very aware that people are PO'd.
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lol damage control. Fluff the fact until release, hope people buy unaware.
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lol damage control. Fluff the fact until release, hope people buy unaware.

Ya I don't think it will work that way, unless they actually change it and clearly say it's been changed, they won't get a lot of sales, everywhere I see anything posted in relation to xbox one, it's all hate towards that feature and "I'm getting PS4", they better do something..
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As much as I would like to believe that people would avoid the xbox like the plague because of their ridiculous policies, all I have to do is look at simcity. EA is on the cutting edge of scummy policy making and yet people still bought simcity despite all of the moaning.
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As much as I would like to believe that people would avoid the xbox like the plague because of their ridiculous policies, all I have to do is look at simcity. EA is on the cutting edge of scummy policy making and yet people still bought simcity despite all of the moaning.

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Ya I don't think it will work that way, unless they actually change it and clearly say it's been changed, they won't get a lot of sales, everywhere I see anything posted in relation to xbox one, it's all hate towards that feature and "I'm getting PS4", they better do something..

Here is the problem. Your sources don't actually say they will not charge for rented, used, or traded games. It just says "to play used games".

You see the problem. Steam does not charge you "to play any game", but it charges you to buy the game. It is a nice play on words, but still does not clear up the problem.

Problem. Once the game is on persons a's live account. What does it take to get it to transfer onto person b's live account?

Person a could lend person b their profile and person be could "play the game" without any problem. But once person a wants to transfer the game to person b, then the account would have to be deleted from person a and added to person b. Which will be a fee, according to most sources. I can not say how I know this, but the current rumor I have seen is the used games fee will be placed on shop doing the trading. There is currently no way to trade the game between two people with out one of them paying a fee.

We are not talking about playing the game, we are talking about transferring the game. Two very different subjects. According to most sources I have read this morning, it will be up to 52 dollars to transfer the game from person a to person b.

Bottom line, so far, from what I know and what I have seen first hand.

All game transfers have to have a fee attached to them. If you sell the game to a 3rd party used game store, they will be charged up to 52 dollars to resell that game. If you want to transfer the game between people, you will have to pay an activation fee to get the old game off one account and added to another account.

No matter what a fee is paid by the buyer. Either directly to Microsoft or to the 3rd party store which has to pay Microsoft.

They could change all of this, but currently that is what I am getting from a lot of sources. Will post the sources as the go live.
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Can someone explain to me why so many people are upset? Do all of you guys buy used games? I've been a PC gamer for over two decades, so I am very used to the disk just being an installation vessel for the game. Now I pretty much use Steam exclusively.

I haven't been in a Gamestop for years, but when I would buy a game from them I always paid the $5 more to give money to the devs instead of paying the 60% used price mark up that Gamestop pockets. For me, I thought Gamestop was universally panned by gamers online, so its strange for me to see such a strong backlash. I do understand the people that lend games to friends or buy/sell online, but I didn't know it was a make or break thing for console gamers. We PC gamers have settled into the one-owner policy and we've ended up getting great deals through steam and others on new games that support the devs.

I'm not for or against the used policy. I can see why they are switching policies (or at least want to), and I can see why some people would be upset. However, I'm trying to figure out why its such a strong topic for people.

FWIW, I'm leaning towards picking up a PS4 right now, but I'll wait for E3 before I make a good decision.
 
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Can someone explain to me why so many people are upset? Do all of you guys buy used games? I've been a PC gamer for over two decades, so I am very used to the disk just being an installation vessel for the game. Now I pretty much use Steam exclusively.

I haven't been in a Gamestop for years, but when I would buy a game from them I always paid the $5 more to give money to the devs instead of paying the 60% used price mark up that Gamestop pockets. For me, I thought Gamestop was universally panned by gamers online, so its strange for me to see such a strong backlash. I do understand the people that lend games to friends or buy/sell online, but I didn't know it was a make or break thing for console gamers. We PC gamers have settled into the one-owner policy and we've ended up getting great deals through steam and others on new games that support the devs.

I'm not for or against the used policy. I can see why they are switching policies (or at least want to), and I can see why some people would be upset. However, I'm trying to figure out why its such a strong topic for people.

FWIW, I'm leaning towards picking up a PS4 right now, but I'll wait for E3 before I make a good decision.

Ya I seen the story's this morning, I'm honestly done posting this stuff till E3, if they go this route and sony doesn't, it's going to hurt there sales alot!
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@subyman I sell my games to help purchase another game and my little brother likes to borrow my games (hopefully Sony doesn't charge)..I wouldn't have a problem with this no used games stuff if games were quite lower than 60 bucks.
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lol the xbox one sounds like windows 8 in a way force stuff on people and make them pay for it and like it. But with this day and age people reject being forced so more people will avoid a xbox one and stick to a 360 or buy the ps4 if the details are correct we are seeing right now.
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