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I'm happy XboxOne is making these tough choices. It's good to see a company using all the options we have at our disposal. You all claim that only %10 of people in the world have broadband?  Well, for those 700,000 that's apparently "privileged" then GOOD FOR US.  As if that actually excludes their target market.  Do you think their future goals ended yesterday? Do you think that the push for broadband is going to stop and that the rest of the world is just going to continue living in a tree using dialup?  Xbox Live required broadband in 2002/2003 when WAYY less people had it.  It was a gamble, but it also ensured that the Xbox Live platform would a fast and sturdy platform built for the future to come.

 

If the Xbox One can create some new standards, they can build upon new platforms.  The idea that you have to turn your xbox on and wait for updates or something is done.  Those 300,000 servers or whatever, what if those somehow tied into your singleplayer games?  With a requirement in place, developers can build around the promises and use the complete hardware/cloud to the fullest.

 

And this nonsense about paying for these services....Obviously, we'd like xbox live to be free, but that's too bad.  But are you playing your xbox on some old TV from the 90s?  Are you just soooo brole that you only have just enough money to spend on a 400-500 dollar console with $60 games, but then you can't afford other basic means?  If that's the case, maybe you shouldn't even be getting console.  They're not freaking santa claus.  This is a business.  Either you can afford to be in the game or you can't.

 

So go a head. and complain about how the broadband requirement is crap because not everybody can afford, then ironically go out and buy an expensive PS4 or turn around and play on your $1-2k computer.

 

Don't limit the technology for the rest of us. There's plenty of people already on broadband and we'd like to push the hardware further.

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Then they should release XBOX one USA edition. I will wait E3 before i judge but i dont like xbox anymore.We asked for a console now we have a htpc
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I am angry at anyone who expects me to have an internet connection for entertainment purposes.

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isn't cheap and they keep raising the bill. At some point it isn't going to be worth it anymore.

that's the day we all walk outside on a sunny day and forget it all, go back to how it was.
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I have to wonder what the market would look like if cable companies jumped into the gaming market but still required some sort of check system for internet connection?
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MS - "We are going to sell you an electronic box with a built in camera and a permanent connection to us."

Consumer - "I can playz gamez on dat? Me want 2!"

Really though am I the only one who thinks its creepy to go and buy an always online surveillance system to place in your living room? or kids bedroom?
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MS - "We are going to sell you an electronic box with a built in camera and a permanent connection to us."

Consumer - "I can playz gamez on dat? Me want 2!"

Really though am I the only one who thinks its creepy to go and buy an always online surveillance system to place in your living room? or kids bedroom?


No, I am in complete agreeance, I already posted on this in the other thread
post #107 of 140
I think most people, including myself, are disappointed because they're looking for an incredible gaming machine, and Microsoft presented a HTPC. Nintendo's still trying to innovate gaming.
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As if that actually excludes their target market.

Actually, the market they should be going for and concentrating on right now (ie. The people who actually look at consoles before they're released) often aren't with Internet. At least 4-5 people I know with 360s and PS3s don't have internet. If their target market is somewhere else...Why? TV features aren't going to make my Mum, aunts, etc want an XBOne.
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Do you think their future goals ended yesterday? Do you think that the push for broadband is going to stop and that the rest of the world is just going to continue living in a tree using dialup?  Xbox Live required broadband in 2002/2003 when WAYY less people had it.  It was a gamble, but it also ensured that the Xbox Live platform would a fast and sturdy platform built for the future to come.

Nope, but are MS' servers going to be always up so I can always turn on an XBOne and game? If their servers go down for 12 hours that would mean quite a number of people aren't connected for 24 hours...Or should we stop holding you back with our normal sleeping patterns?
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If the Xbox One can create some new standards, they can build upon new platforms.  The idea that you have to turn your xbox on and wait for updates or something is done.  Those 300,000 servers or whatever, what if those somehow tied into your singleplayer games?  With a requirement in place, developers can build around the promises and use the complete hardware/cloud to the fullest.

You mean like how Simcity is an MMO? I don't want features like that unless they're good, required (ie. Actually need online, not just "need" online ala SC's cloud computation) features which never seems to happen unless it's an MMO.
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And this nonsense about paying for these services....Obviously, we'd like xbox live to be free, but that's too bad.  But are you playing your xbox on some old TV from the 90s?  Are you just soooo brole that you only have just enough money to spend on a 400-500 dollar console with $60 games, but then you can't afford other basic means?  If that's the case, maybe you shouldn't even be getting console.  They're not freaking santa claus.  This is a business.  Either you can afford to be in the game or you can't.

I don't pay for XBL Gold because any and all MP I do is on my PC...Same with the streaming options I have available, I'd rather not pay for free services kthx. Not all of us like the feeling of being screwed.
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So go a head. and complain about how the broadband requirement is crap because not everybody can afford, then ironically go out and buy an expensive PS4 or turn around and play on your $1-2k computer.

Broadband requirements are crap, I can't always ensure MS' servers are up, I can't always ensure my internet is always up (I say that as someone who has a pretty good internet connection for Australia too, 1ms jitter, 31ms ping to a server 500mi away, 20Mbit/s download, 1Mbit/s upload and unlimited, etc) and I can't always ensure I'm connected to my internet or any internet in general.

Hell, what if I went on holiday? I usually take a console if I know I have a TV I can plug stuff into, I've taken my PS2 and my 360 before..Can't do that with an XBOne.
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Don't limit the technology for the rest of us. There's plenty of people already on broadband and we'd like to push the hardware further.

I'd actually argue that buying an XBOne and saying this broadband requirement is a good thing is more limiting...Tell me, what do we know that the XBOne can do that actually needs internet to do? Why do we need to be shackled to the internet and unable to take our games to a friends house or use it where we don't have internet? That's more limiting than anything else.

You know what else is limiting? The 10% of the GPU, 2 CPU cores and 3GB of RAM that the XBOne needs for it's 3 OS' (That are the way they are specifically so we can Skype friends mid-game, check the TV quickly, etc) that make games look noticeably worse and developers work harder once the consoles start getting old.
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I think most people, including myself, are disappointed because they're looking for an incredible gaming machine, and Microsoft presented a HTPC. Nintendo's still trying to innovate gaming.

Exactly. The fact of the matter is, MS seem to be misguided again...They're clearly targeting the audience that mass bought the Wii last generation without realizing that those people will barely hear about the XBOne until it's on a store shelf, and likely will barely hear about those HTPC features at all...When the 360 was launched a month before E3, we got a tonne of gaming related stuff, MS could have done that again. There's no excuse other than the obvious one that a lot of the XBOne defenders are ignoring, that MS isn't concentrating as much on gaming this generation.
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I'm happy XboxOne is making these tough choices. It's good to see a company using all the options we have at our disposal. You all claim that only %10 of people in the world have broadband?  Well, for those 700,000 that's apparently "privileged" then GOOD FOR US.  As if that actually excludes their target market.  Do you think their future goals ended yesterday? Do you think that the push for broadband is going to stop and that the rest of the world is just going to continue living in a tree using dialup?  Xbox Live required broadband in 2002/2003 when WAYY less people had it.  It was a gamble, but it also ensured that the Xbox Live platform would a fast and sturdy platform built for the future to come.

If the Xbox One can create some new standards, they can build upon new platforms.  The idea that you have to turn your xbox on and wait for updates or something is done.  Those 300,000 servers or whatever, what if those somehow tied into your singleplayer games?  With a requirement in place, developers can build around the promises and use the complete hardware/cloud to the fullest.

And this nonsense about paying for these services....Obviously, we'd like xbox live to be free, but that's too bad.  But are you playing your xbox on some old TV from the 90s?  Are you just soooo brole that you only have just enough money to spend on a 400-500 dollar console with $60 games, but then you can't afford other basic means?  If that's the case, maybe you shouldn't even be getting console.  They're not freaking santa claus.  This is a business.  Either you can afford to be in the game or you can't.

So go a head. and complain about how the broadband requirement is crap because not everybody can afford, then ironically go out and buy an expensive PS4 or turn around and play on your $1-2k computer.

Don't limit the technology for the rest of us. There's plenty of people already on broadband and we'd like to push the hardware further.

My God man.
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My God man.

Call me crazy, but to think that MS would actually release a console with so many holes in it is quite laughable. So much negative speculation going on. I tend to think/hope that E3 will change everybody's minds and clear up some of these concerns.
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