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I will only buy a Wii U when the price goes down (close to when Sony releases PS4?), by then there should be some amazing games on it. Xbox One... Microsoft needs to give a lot more info on E3, the internet thing, Kinect spy stuff (people are worried about it, go figure) and the stupids of stupid the used games fiasco, right now as i see it the Xbox One is just one big expensive voice remote control imho. Like i've said before i can't wait for E3, one week left?, two?, i can't wait biggrin.gif.
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Why do you come off as so angry and defensive over this...

Obviously someone who has no internet connection is going to be unlikely to buy and use a gaming console, but that doesn't mean that those people don't exist.

Instead of getting all up in a fuss over how you believe that Microsoft only wants to target those that have an internet connection, and a solid one at that. Take a step back for a minute and think:

The Wii sold so well because people who would never ever buy a gaming console bought it. The "casual" market, how many of these (and I don't have the statistic either) do you believe have a solid 24/7/365 internet connection? On top of that how many do you believe will know how to utilize that connection?

Instead of just giving vague responses to everything, be direct about what Microsoft's plan with this console seems to be: Sell these exclusively to the East and West coasts of America. These areas have a high population density of almost guaranteed individuals that are always connected to the internet. That is there plan, and there is no reason to be ashamed because of it.

Your incorrect about the internet connection and gaming console. For a few months I didn't have an internet connection. Money was tight so I dropped what I didn't need. Didn't pawn my games or anything stupid like that since it was only going to be a few months max. But during this time all my PS3 games worked.

Awhile back I ordered Crysis Warhead via Amazon. The night before the game arrived we had a big storm that knocked out the power in our area. They managed to get the power on quickly but the internet didn't work for another week. Guess what, I couldn't play my new game because it required I had an internet connection. EA was willing to refund me the cost if I wanted to send it back which I believe is the right steps to take. A even better step would have been not requiring it in the first place. No internet, school was canceled and I couldn't even play the game I had just brought.
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i do have to say that in the past year, THE ONLY console only game that has made me actually want to buy a console to play it, was on the WII U and its called Zombiu...that game looks like so much fun
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I have a PS3 in a house with internet connection and I never go online...

Why go online? So you can have kids ruin your games? So you can wait forever for matchmaking in whatever game you play?

I still scratch my head at xbox people who buy live access. You pay full retail for the games, then they ask you to pay more to go online. Sure, they throw some other stuff at you but the point is I don't want it, I don't want to pay for it.



Also, those that are frantically trying to convince others that WAIT A MINUTE!!!! HERE IS PROOF YOU DON'T NEED TO BE ONLINE. Well guess what, most people are not going to sit at a computer screen for hours and research this question on the internet. They'll hear what they hear, and go with it. People are busy, and things like this hopefully are not a priority.

So what I'm saying is, it is the fault of MS for not making themselves more clear. I mean, if OCN can't even come up with a definitive answer that satisfies the majority....what hope does the general public have?


I've always said, these types of product introduction conferences are such a waste of time and money. They keep saying stupid things with words like "innovation" "next-gen" and all that trash.

For once, I'd like to see Sony or MS go on stage, show us the console and simply put up a powerpoint of the hardware specs, and how everything will work (used games, internet connection, extra stuff like connect and all that)...then at the very end have a page with how much it'll cost (if you don't know how much it will cost....don't show it to us) and when it will be released. There, be done with it. The rest of the time should be upcoming games being introduced.
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Tell you what, I'll retract my statement since it was implied rather then stated and offer the following: In the year 2013, very very few people OWN AN XBOX that don't have a 24/7 internet connection.

If you don't have a 24/7 internet connection, the chances that you'll own an Xbox 360/One are incredibly low.

Their demographic and target audience are clearly, people with the internet.

From about 2006-2009 I was unable to connect to Xbox live simply because the only non-dialup internet (excluding satellite internet) terrible DSL line that did not give it's already low advertised speed. Now keep in mind that I live in a middle class suburban neighborhood. Now, I know that I am not representative of most people in the USA, but there are a lot of people living in rural or obscure/difficult to access parts of the US (perhaps some still in cities?) that are simply going to be unable to use this do to low bandwith or extremely unreliable coverage.

Well of course their target audience is going to be people with internet simply because they've excluded those with minimal/unreliable internet.

And I'm sorry, do you seriously think that people are going to spend 50-70 a month for basic internet just to play this console when they either can't afford that monthly fee or simply don't have a fast enough ISP to allow them to play?
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Anyone who has been to a gamestop or similar shop has probably seen this. Very young kids running around looking at everything and wanting to play everything. Most of them cannot afford a brand new game, so they buy the used. In Canada, at the gamestop shops I've been to...its a roughly equal distribution of used and new games, hell some locations have even more shelves in the middle of the store for used games.


If Sony and MS adopt similar practices to the used game market...those kids are going to find something else to fill their childhood. Especially since most of them have an android or iOS powered phone nowadays.


Greedy corporations digging their own graves. They expect to target what...the people who're out of school, working, with no family and thus are able to drop 70~ on every single game that comes out? Gimme a break...even back when I worked full time I could hardly justify a new game, they are getting more and more boring, linear and shorter.


Just you watch, this is going to be just like the situation sony had with the PS2 years after the PS3 launched. People will still buy the "current" generation of PS3, 360s simply because it is so much cheaper.

I have so many friends who only went to xbox because they can hack it and get free games.
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When "Active Internet Connection" is printed on the box under requirements, they have no excuse or room to complain.

Looking at my Wii U box, and my Wii box, (because those are the only two I have saved) the Wii U does state that an internet connection is required for some features. If the Xbox One is to come with a label saying "An Internet connection is required to initialize your game purchases" then you are correct I have nothing to hold my argument up with, but if it does not come with such a label, and you need to authorize your game purchase through a Microsoft server, I would say that my argument is valid. Even if it was "some features," playing your game is not what I would classify as a "feature"
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Your incorrect about the internet connection and gaming console. For a few months I didn't have an internet connection. Money was tight so I dropped what I didn't need. Didn't pawn my games or anything stupid like that since it was only going to be a few months max. But during this time all my PS3 games worked.

Awhile back I ordered Crysis Warhead via Amazon. The night before the game arrived we had a big storm that knocked out the power in our area. They managed to get the power on quickly but the internet didn't work for another week. Guess what, I couldn't play my new game because it required I had an internet connection. EA was willing to refund me the cost if I wanted to send it back which I believe is the right steps to take. A even better step would have been not requiring it in the first place. No internet, school was canceled and I couldn't even play the game I had just brought.

I'm not disagreeing with you, Things do happen, I was hit by Sandy and was without power for 10 days, am I going to sulk around and be angry at Microsoft because I can't play my Xbox One? No. I have better things to do such as trying to stay warm. What I will say to your post is that, what you are describing is the draw back to the always connected world, I have no issues with the Xbox One needing an internet connection, I clearly have it, and other than Hurricane Sandy, I have not had extended black outs of my internet. But that is exactly my point, I am on the East Coast of America, Everyone I know has internet, thus I and my friends are all their target audience, aka the east coast.
I think we have the same feelings towards this subject matter, unless I am misinterpreting you, or you are misinterpreting me (or I am not being clear) thumb.gif
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I have security cameras in my home so, I don't quite see the issue here...

You have security camera's in your home, not outside it? That's a bit weird bud tbh..
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Wii U + PC is the best of both worlds imho.

Pick up a PS4 a little later in it's lifespan when it's on rev 2.0 hardware, all the launch bugs have been ironed out and there is already a good back catalog of games to be had fairly cheaply.

Skip the Xbox One altogether lol.

lol at your avatar biggrin.gif

The article seemed more like a bash on the XBOX, and not so much about Nintendo anything.
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Why do you come off as so angry and defensive over this...

Obviously someone who has no internet connection is going to be unlikely to buy and use a gaming console, but that doesn't mean that those people don't exist.

Instead of getting all up in a fuss over how you believe that Microsoft only wants to target those that have an internet connection, and a solid one at that. Take a step back for a minute and think:

The Wii sold so well because people who would never ever buy a gaming console bought it. The "casual" market, how many of these (and I don't have the statistic either) do you believe have a solid 24/7/365 internet connection? On top of that how many do you believe will know how to utilize that connection?

Instead of just giving vague responses to everything, be direct about what Microsoft's plan with this console seems to be: Sell these exclusively to the East and West coasts of America. These areas have a high population density of almost guaranteed individuals that are always connected to the internet. That is there plan, and there is no reason to be ashamed because of it.

I'm neither angry or defensive, I'm indifferent.

The Xbox 360's target audience is made up of individuals that had an internet connection -- That's a fact.

If I'm marketing a product, I market the product TO my target audience.

Essentially, this entire topic is trying to skew that target audience into being the entire demographic when, it's really not.

If you don't have the internet 24/7/365, don't buy the Xbox One because the product wasn't intended for your use.

Generally people are "upset" about this because they don't have internet but, that's not Microsoft's problem because you're not part of their target audience.

Does it suck for some of you? Sure...But, again, you're not the person they're marketing the system towards so, why the rage in the first place?...Oh, wait, it's because you WANT one?

Well, I want a Gallardo but, I'm not rich enough to buy one -- Maybe I should start a thread about it?

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You have security camera's in your home, not outside it? That's a bit weird bud tbh..

They cover the entirety of my property considering I have a business on site but, quite frankly, I felt it was none of your business. Still don't but, placating you is easier then furthering this specific discussion... thumb.gif
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