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post #1 of 10
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So my friend is planning a build with a budget of around £900 (GBP)
Rig shall be used for plenty of gaming and possible video editing in the future.

He would like to go Haswell, so the Intel build shown is using ivy bridge equivalent parts to represent price (However I know it will still be more expensive)
For his budget I recommend he goes for an AMD build, however naturally him being an Intel/NVidia fanboy he doesn't like the idea.

He's upgrading from a Pentium D @3GHz with 4GB DDR2 and an NVidia 8600.

Please use this thread to make possible improvements to suggested builds (stay close to £900) and suggest which one you would chose, but with reasons!

Also, He chose a 750 watt PSU to allow for "overclocking headroom" Please help clear this up and inform us how much extra overclocking his CPU and GPU would generally use?

NO FANBOY ANSWERS

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£164.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H80i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (£76.97 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UP4 TH ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£143.98 @ Dabs)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£41.77 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£71.99 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£59.99 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (£299.99 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£89.98 @ Dabs)
Total: £949.66
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-24 12:39 BST+0100)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor (£113.59 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H80i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (£76.97 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£73.46 @ Dabs)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£41.77 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£71.99 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£59.99 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card (£239.98 @ Dabs)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply (£53.46 @ Aria PC)
Total: £731.21
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-24 12:39 BST+0100)

Thanks in advance
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post #2 of 10
Get the best of both worlds an get a i5-3570K and a 7950? rolleyes.gif
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Originally Posted by StayFrosty View Post

Get the best of both worlds an get a i5-3570K and a 7950? rolleyes.gif

He says he doesn't like AMD drivers.

My argument is you needn't look at them again once you have them installed and set up to your taste
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post #4 of 10
Some people will never learn. rolleyes.gif
post #5 of 10
Here's a nice, sensible Intel/NVIDIA rig (with a case, which you omitted in your original two suggestions) that comes in at under £900. I changed the cooler to a more reasonably-priced air cooler and the motherboard to a model that doesn't have all the additional unnecessary gadgets that the GA-Z77X-UP4-TH has.

Note that a 520w PSU is more than enough for a OC'd i5-3570K + and a single GTX 670.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£164.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£24.80 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£99.98 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£41.77 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£71.99 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£59.99 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (£299.99 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case (£47.94 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£64.10 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer (£14.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £890.54
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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Edited by svenge - 5/24/13 at 6:23am
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post #6 of 10
If you can fit it in, I'd suggest getting a MSI GTX 670 Power Edition or a EVGA GTX 670 FTW Signiture 2 (which is basically a GTX 680).
post #7 of 10
The best thing to do in this sense is present him with BOTH builds. Let his decided which avenue he wants to go down. Let him know that Intel/Nvidia build is more expensive. If he want's to save money, the AMD build will have to do and he will need to step out of his comfort zone. We can give you all the details, but the fact of the matter is, it's his build, his money, and his choice. Treat him like a customer. Give him what he wants within reason.
post #8 of 10
why he doesnt buy used parts i saw on ebay.co.uk alot of great deals like z77 bundles also graphic cards soled cheap
    
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post #9 of 10
Here you go, got the i5-3570k(or haswell equivalent in not too long), which is better than the AMD equivalent, and the 7970, which is better than the Nvidia equivalent.(i used refernce cuz I like reference but several 7970s fit the budget)

I'm an AMD fanboy but even I know you should buy the best parts you can afford, not a name or a sticker you like for some reason. Tell your friend he is being a moron thumb.gif

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£164.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H80i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (£76.97 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£99.98 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£38.91 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£71.99 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Hitachi Deskstar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£46.00 @ Ebuyer)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card (£338.30 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: OCZ ZS 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply (£49.44 @ Dabs)
Total: £886.58
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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post #10 of 10
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Guys, i should have mentioned he only needs to buy the parts mentioned in the OP.

He put together the Intel build and i presented him with the AMD build.

He purchased a NZXT Phantom quite a few months back and it is his preference to have a Corsair H80i
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