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Seeing how hard Intel pushed TB, I don't think this will take off.

Intel eventually tried to push RDRAM with a lot of force back in the PIV days... And it miserably failed.
   
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post #12 of 21
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I only see TB stuff used with Apple stuff (as they're the only ones who can successfully push such expensive proprietary cables).


Seeing how hard Intel pushed TB, I don't think this will take off.

I checked out some external TB GPUs.

A single external case cost you between a Radeon 7870 to a GTX 780's release price.

How is it that an aluminum case, a Thunderbolt cable, TB to PCI-E, and a micro PSU add up to such absurdly high price?
post #13 of 21
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Intel eventually tried to push RDRAM with a lot of force back in the PIV days... And it miserably failed.

It failed due to all the memory manufactures conspiring(and proven in court undisputedly) against RDRAM and artificially inflating the price to manufacture it.
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It failed due to all the memory manufactures conspiring(and proven in court undisputedly) against RDRAM and artificially inflating the price to manufacture it.

No, it was because Rambus introduced a far-more complex and power consuming product that was only somewhat better than the DDR versions, and priced it extremely high. RDRAM also required larger silicon dies because of its complexity, and a heatsink so it doesn't overheat. Even the performance increase was questionable due to the increased latency.

Intel stated in their press release that Rambus' engineers were incompetent. Usually companies don't do that kind of a bad-mouthing at former partners, unless if they're blaming them for the failures, or were just frustrated.
Edited by A Bad Day - 5/25/13 at 7:51am
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I wish AMD's port kicks off.
Being cheaper, I could only dream of one day having an APU tablet that I could dock to my setup with KB+Mouse+GPU(like HD8850?) and game on! biggrin.gif

edit: Heck I've always dreamt of a phone that I could dock as such, but then again I used to dream of watches that project holograms as the future! biggrin.gif , who knows.
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It failed due to all the memory manufactures conspiring(and proven in court undisputedly) against RDRAM and artificially inflating the price to manufacture it.

It failed when something called DDR2 hit the market.
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No, it was because Rambus introduced a product that was only somewhat better than the DDR versions, and priced it extremely high.

Intel stated in their press release that Rambus' engineers were incompetent. Usually companies don't do that kind of a bad-mouthing at former partners, unless if they're blaming them for the failures, or were just frustrated.

They had no choice in the price it was proven in court that Samsung and the other manufactures all colluded to price fix DDR selling it below their cost to lock in the standardization of PC main memory to DDR and to artificially inflate the manufacturing cost of the RDRAM. This is ILLEGAL.
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Micron and Hynix were accused of abusing agreements made in the 1990s to manufacture RDRAM by inflating its price and suppressing availability, eventually leading Intel to turn away from adopting and promoting Rambus memory as an industry standard.
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In 2004, Infineon pled guilty to colluding with other DRAM makers to fix the price of DRAM between 1999 and 2002, and agreed to pay fines for the practice. Hynix and Samsung followed in 2005 with their own settlements, and some Micron employees even went to jail over price-fixing scandal. Now the Japanese memory maker Elpida joins the roster of confirmed perpetrators with their recent guilty plea in the same price fixing case.
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January 2006, Infineon, Hynix, Samsung and Elpida have all pled guilty to DRAM fixing and paid fines of $160 million, $185 million, $300 million and $84 million while sending executives to jail for prison times of several month

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No, it was because Rambus introduced a far-more complex and power consuming product that was only somewhat better than the DDR versions, and priced it extremely high. RDRAM also required larger silicon dies because of its complexity, and a heatsink so it doesn't overheat. Even the performance increase was questionable due to the increased latency.

Intel stated in their press release that Rambus' engineers were incompetent. Usually companies don't do that kind of a bad-mouthing at former partners, unless if they're blaming them for the failures, or were just frustrated.

They were had my friend.
     
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They had no choice in the price it was proven in court that Samsung and the other manufactures all colluded to price fix DDR selling it below their cost to lock in the standardization of PC main memory to DDR and to artificially inflate the manufacturing cost of the RDRAM. This is ILLEGAL.

Don't think I'm doubting you, but I would like to read your sources please.
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again:
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Why cant we just go back to making the next Actual USB standard. as far as i know, its the only "standard" that is widely used and it actually has the word "universal" in its name.. rolleyes.gif
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