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There are two non-negotiables in building a PC these days: the cost of Intel silicon and the cost of the Windows license. You can play with everything else but Intel and Microsoft are going to get their share. Those two relatively fixed costs in the PC bill of materials can do one of two things: encourage OEMs to skimp on component cost elsewhere, or drive the entire ecosystem to supply higher quality components at lower prices. If you’ve been following the PC industry for the past decade, I think we’ve seen more of the former and less of the latter.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6981/the-kabini-deal-can-amd-improve-the-quality-of-mainstream-pcs-with-its-latest-apu

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It can compete with higher priced Pentium/i3! biggrin.gif
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In before everyone bashes everything here, when an AMD device with no Intel Tax and no Windows Tax (running Linux) would probably bring a $500 hybrid down to $300 and offer similar performance.
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I'm not really seeing how it will improve "mainstream PC's" at all other than power efficiency (power draw isn't much of a concern to begin with ) and perhaps a smaller form factor.

Besides, mainstream PC's are dying.... hard.
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I'm not really seeing how it will improve "mainstream PC's" at all other than power efficiency (power draw isn't much of a concern to begin with ) and perhaps a smaller form factor.

Besides, mainstream PC's are dying.... hard.

No they aren't. They're accommodating the new mobile devices.

Now the OEMs' habit of making some odd design choices (especially for higher end desktops)... I'd say that hasn't really improved much.

"Herp derp, let's give this cute little i3 11" Samsung laptop 2 hours of battery life, and market it as great for on the go usage! Oh, and use the tried-and-tested 720p screen."

And then there's also the very limited choices of Llano/Trinity laptops. Those APUs are cheaper than the i3/i5/i7, but that's not going to stop Dell from only courting Intel.

Nor is it going to stop HP from releasing a new Richland Probook that's a water-downed version of the Trinity Probook (for example: no more SATA/USB3 ports or the 900p screen option, take the 768p or go somewhere else).


EDIT: And then there's the bloatware...
Edited by A Bad Day - 5/24/13 at 3:13pm
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To sum up the article, Kabini beats its intel counterparts in GPU performance, is going to be cheaper for both manufacturers and consumers, and destroys intel in power consumption by 50% (during idle, use, and gaming), however the CPU is not as good as the intel counterparts. Honestly the CPU performance could be better, but for these small PCs usually get turned into media boxes, or internet browsers and in that category price/GPU performance/power consumption(and sound) matter the most.
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/6981/the-kabini-deal-can-amd-improve-the-quality-of-mainstream-pcs-with-its-latest-apu

Great article from Anandtech, informative... thumb.gif

It can compete with higher priced Pentium/i3! biggrin.gif

It can't compete with i3 in both CPU and GPU performance.

All reviews (except techreport) are showing that HD4000 in 17w CPU is much more powerful than kabini or Temash. The reviews in techreport are unreliable because HD4000 in 17w i5 gets more than twice as much as fps as 17w i3 even though both GPU have exactly similar clocks. I know i3 was using single channel, but still it hard to believe that single channel memory would cut fps by less than half

EDIT: even anadtech review show Pentium 2020M wining in one gaming benchmark and losing in other benchmark against kabini. So, even weak intel HD iGPU is somehow close to kabini. HD4000 is much better than that.
Edited by ThePath - 5/26/13 at 1:25am
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It can't compete with i3 in both CPU and GPU performance.

All reviews (except techreport) are showing that HD4000 in 17w CPU is much more powerful than kabini or Temash. The reviews in techreport are unreliable because HD4000 in 17w i5 gets more than twice as much as fps as 17w i3 even though both GPU have exactly similar clocks. I know i3 was using single channel, but still it hard to believe that single channel memory would cut fps by less than half

EDIT: even anadtech review show Pentium 2020M wining in one gaming benchmark and losing in other benchmark against kabini. So, even weak intel HD iGPU is somehow close to kabini. HD4000 is much better than that.
The system with an i5 in TR's review was using two 1600MHz sticks and the i3 system had a single 1333MHz stick. That's 2.4 times the bandwidth and the test results show it being almost exactly 2.4 times faster.
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