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I'll still be going with Haswell, I think. Mostly because Intel has a habit of making their sockets obsolete after a year or so.
    
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I would have been fine with Haswell if it worked with Z77 and Z87 being a option.
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post #133 of 202
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I'll still be going with Haswell, I think. Mostly because Intel has a habit of making their sockets obsolete after a year or so.

1155 has been around since January 2011. 2.5 years
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ok, how about this, if you think that haswell is a flop then so be it, it's a flop for you. go get an fx 8350, oh wait..., you already have one!!! that's why!!!

somebody is trying to justify his purchase by hating the competition!

what competition ?

Their competing with them self's, with EOL cpu's.
    
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4770k is not an enthusiast chip? 4670k is not an enthusiast chip? Please explain how.

It's just a false illusion for you to think that they have enthusiast grade processors on their mainstream platform.
oh you AMD guys.... rolleyes.gif
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Difference between 4670k and 4770k? Would be more expensive?

And HyperThreading. wink.gif

4c 4T vs 4C 8T

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what competition ?

Their competing with them self's, with EOL cpu's.

Unless I misunderstood your post, he meant Intel is the competition to AMD.

An 8350 owner calling Haswell a flop, very original. wink.gif

I don't think Haswell is a worthy upgrade for anyone on SB or IB, but anyone on a Phenom II, Core 2, would be a great upgrade for them.

The only way Haswell could be comparable to Bulldozer is if we waited 5 years for Haswell and:

  • Intel Promised High IPC increases, and delivered lower IPC
  • Haswell Consumed more power over IB
  • Haswell's IGPU performed worse than IB

I'd go into more details, but that's the gist.
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As far as how I feel about Haswell, it's about how far it's moved as opposed to where it stands. I don't recall ever seeing a 0% to 7% increase in performance over an entire year being heralded so much. And now we've reached the point where these small changes in performance are justified by calling a $340, overclocking oriented chip "mainstream" because that's what Intel's marketing slides claim. The same types of marketing slides that normally get thrown out because they're so outlandish are now being regarded as the absolute definition of a word.

And we can leave what I own out of this. A product's success depends on how much it's grown over time in performance, if it's not a big enough leap, it doesn't give people enough incentive to upgrade, and thus it's not going to sell as well and you could classify it as a flop.

Since you guys decided to bring AMD into this, ask yourself how many AMD guys are going to grab Steamroller if it ends up being a 20% IPC increase over the PD they already own, and ask yourself how many people are going to grab Haswell if it's a 5% increase over the IB they already own.

Do you kind of see what I'm getting at now regarding it being a flop? It's going to isolate a ton of people from upgrading, sales will go down, analysts will shriek "OMG DESKTOP DYING DESKTOP CPU SALES DOWN BECAUSE OF TABLETS!!!!" when they're really down because it's not a good enough product to drive masses to upgrade, and then Intel will focus less on us. And then the cycle continues.

If the power is there people will find uses for it. Look at how big sites like twitch.tv have become because people have the CPU power now to stream and play. If Intel came out with Haswell and it was a 15% performance upgrade and OCed like SB, it'd be an awesome chip and tons of people would buy it and I could continue my life of Intel->AMD->Intel flip flopping every motherboard upgrade.

So there you have it, Haswell is disappointing and a failure for enthusiasts because it's such a small yearly leap in performance and it offers no incentives to sell chips. I don't know what you guys want from me. I guess a product that barely improves over the previous generation and offers very little reason to upgrade over products that are 3 years old is a success and $340 for a part designed to be overclocked with high end graphics cards is just "mainstream" and all those rigs with GTX 780, GTX 680, 7970, etc and 3770k or 3570k are just mainstream gaming rigs (well obviously that's what Intel wants you to think on their marketing slides since they're competing with AMD and Nvidia in graphics).

I'm not giving up, this whole thing is just baffling. Intel is improving at a snails pace and people act like it's some sort of great thing and Intel deserves to be defended over it.
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I'd like to ask everyone's opinion. If I had to choose between:

1. 4670k + SSD
or
2. 4770k but no SSD

which do you think would be the better choice for gaming? (I'll be using this CPU over the next 3 years.)
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I'd like to ask everyone's opinion. If I had to choose between:

1. 4670k + SSD
or
2. 4770k but no SSD

which do you think would be the better choice for gaming? (I'll be using this CPU over the next 3 years.)

4670k and ssd.
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I'd like to ask everyone's opinion. If I had to choose between:

1. 4670k + SSD
or
2. 4770k but no SSD

which do you think would be the better choice for gaming? (I'll be using this CPU over the next 3 years.)

In terms of performance, neither the i7's hyper-threading nor the SSD would appreciably impact your gaming experience in the vast majority of games.

However the SSD would greatly impact your non-gaming user experience as compared to hyper-threading (assuming you're not doing video encoding all day), so I'd go with the SSD.
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