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Intel said their focus with Haswell was to cut power usage well maintaining the same performance. Intel claims Haswell will offer 50 percent more battery life in laptops without decreasing performance.

Haswell wasn't targeted at the desktop market, it was targeted at the laptop/tablet market.

It's nice and all but it's also a desktop cpu, guess they forgot about that.
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1.14voltage for 4.5ghz for his sample.  Pretty decent.  Other than that, only improvements seem to be iGPU and power requirements.


averaged 6% better than i5-3570k at stock
roughly 23% better "GPU" performance
and barely sips any energy when idling (800mhz at .2v)

Great.....improvements that don't matter for desktop.   

If you hear all of the people complaining about AMDs power consumption, then you should know that the idle energy thing should apparently be pretty big in order to help users save. That is, if they're not just looking for reasons to hate on AMD chips.

People also need to remember that CPUs just aren't the bottleneck that often any more, there's no point in increasing performance more than 5-10% at a time when 90% of your users won't notice it.
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2/2 reviews from china on haswell are saying its going to flop as it barely offers any improvements over ivy bridge besides the IGP increase - which still sucks. And next year, broadwell, is intels die shrink, so dont expect anything good till 2015. In the mean time AMD is cranking out 20%+ improvements...

Are you expecting 20% IPC improvements from PD to SR?

8150 --> 8350 did not yield 20% IPC improvements ( meaning clock for clock, since they both OC about the same )
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/57446-fx-8350-cpu-review-amds-vishera-arrives-5.html
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Are you expecting 20% IPC improvements from PD to SR?

8150 --> 8350 did not yield 20% IPC improvements ( meaning clock for clock, since they both OC about the same )
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/57446-fx-8350-cpu-review-amds-vishera-arrives-5.html

His estimates are not wrong but they are not right either since steamroller will have many improvements compared to other updates so far.
I would love to duke out boxing3.gif our best educated guess's on what improvement we will see on Steamroller but this isnt the thread for it. Lets not derail it.

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I wanna run quad IGP.
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Man this 2500k is really holding it's own much like the q6600 if not better.........

Intel better released that 8C i7 3980x/4980x 2011 chip otherwise Sandy to Haswell has been almost completely moot for desktop users.
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...that's a joke right?

What's a joke? What do you clueless people consider a joke?
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Still waiting for a mainstream hexacore from Intel.
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Still waiting for a mainstream hexacore from Intel.

I'd say that would be 2-3 years from now...
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His estimates are not wrong but they are not right either since steamroller will have many improvements compared to other updates so far.
I would love to duke out boxing3.gif our best educated guess's on what improvement we will see on Steamroller but this isnt the thread for it. Lets not derail it.

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All I'm saying is that making statements such as this, are false as of right now.
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In the mean time AMD is cranking out 20%+ improvements...

Is it possible that SR will be 20% over PD? Yes, but seeing is believing.

I'm planning a 2nd rig right now, and there's a 20% chance of me getting an 8350, simply because of the SR upgrade path.

AMD is making big gains by fixing what's wrong with the initial Bulldozer architecture. Haswell is building upon a successful architecture, and also improving on its biggest weakness, the iGPU, while lowering power consumption.

Intel & AMD have very different priorities right now.
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Man this 2500k is really holding it's own much like the q6600 if not better.........

Intel better released that 8C i7 3980x/4980x 2011 chip otherwise Sandy to Haswell has been almost completely moot for desktop users.

If SR truly delivers, maybe we'll see 3930K's at a lower price point, and they're gonna have to release that 3980X for $1k. If AMD wants back in the CPU race, Intel is pretty much opening the doors for them right now.
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