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Want 5.0ghz this is all you need http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128519 8+2phase for 100$

I was able to hit 5.0 on my chip no issue, minus my lack of cooling. Hyper 212 EVO will handle to around 4.6 before I find the temps to be unacceptable. (More than 55C)

Yes I have a 6300, but this board is more than enough to take the 8320/50 to 5.0 with proper cooling.

Read my previous comments about that board. It used to be a solid buy. But Gigabyte decided to skimp out on components for their 970-UD3/990FX-UD3 boards in terms of MOSFET used. From what people have been reporting over the internet is that some of the recent boards are using NIKOS mosfet. I included a link in my previous comments if you want to read up why that is bad.

Your second sentence just proves my earlier point. You can easily get 4.3-4.5Ghz on an i5-3570k with a Hyper 212 Eco. That amounts to an average ~1Ghz overclock over stock frequencies. Even you state that the 8350 will only get to 4.6Ghz (0.6Ghz over stock) on a Hyper 212 Evo before temperatures start becoming uncomfortable. 62C is the maximum recommended temperatures for the FX-8350. The i5-3570k is easily capable of 85C @ load. Intel's maximum temperature is far higher @ 105C (TJ Max), allowing for a safe operating temps of said 85C. AMD can't even touch that.

If you want to think about getting an 8350 up to 5.0Ghz. It WILL take proper cooling and a solid board (990FX now that Gigabyte screwed their 970A-UD3). Proper cooling is going to end up making the AMD route cost pretty much the same as the i5-3570k. And then you end up having the TZ77XE3 on Intel's side which is going to cost the same as the older/newer UD3, which is a capable overclocking board.

Then you have to realize. Why go with the product that is okay in most areas, but great in a few (8350). When you can go a CPU that is great in all areas and okay in a few (3570k). It makes 100% no sense to go with the weaker option when they come out the same price in the end.

Heck, here is the Anandtech Blender benchmark (An incredibly widespread used 3D modeling application): http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU/42

Rendering in Blender is multi-threaded, yet the workspace is not. Most applications out there regarding 3D modeling are similar. Yet you see a 4 core i5-3570k doing the same if not better job than the FX-8350 in a task that should GREATLY favor the FX-8350 due to its extra 4 physical threads.

At this point, it is just common sense. You can like AMD all you want, just as I do. But numbers and facts that have been vouched many times tend to rarely if ever lie.
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You should go 990FXA-GD80 from MSI....

Ends up being pretty much the same price as the Intel build, and even more if you want to get a comparable over clock as you are going to need a better cooler on the AMD side to get a clock comparable OC.
Edited by Kinaesthetic - 5/26/13 at 1:24pm
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130649

Free 8GB Crucial memory w/ purchase, limited offer
I saw that but it's only a single stick. I'd rather have 2 4gig ones
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I'm ordering my computer tonight with a Intel processor thanks for all your help guys
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you're ordering a prebuilt?
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how do you think i get so many new released games free of charge and get in on betas and such before most info is even released without even signing up for them i get advised ahead of time and also get early access to alot of stuff because of this and this gives me alot of inside info also about things to come remember game dev's are in loop before most others even get a sniff of new hardware or what that hardware is capable of.
If this is true then at game launch it should then also work perfect with our "old" hardware. I wonder if the even have a QA team. If a game runs crap on both AMD and Nvidia cards what did they then tested the game with. Ok, you can say that the drivers are not optimized, but that issue should be addressed to AMD or Nvidia before launch or what else hardware do they use to test with when this is the vendors used for gaming. I don`t think they are so high tech as you are saying here. E.g. read about the development of Metro Last Light, hehe.

I also work as a programmer and all this talk about multithreading do anyone here knows what that means in the terms of programming or is it only based on more threading with more cores gives better performance? I think people has to get into that before discussing about more cores and optimizing for multithreading without knowing what is really is under the hood and how this works, scenarios and so on.
As for more cores it will also mean that resources are share between them, so hench different scenarios where you want to utilize this with multithreading depends of what task you execute and what you want to achieve.
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I realize he has made his choice but for anyone else in the same situation - I threw together a build that ends up being $917 after rebates.
Complete system with OS , quality case that can house a 240mm radiator, a 1TB WD caviar black and a 7870 tahiti (nearly a match for the 7950 ) video card. I have the GD-80V2 that I chose , it has pushed my 8350 to 5.6Ghz + on an H-100 - actually prefer it to my CHV-Z.
If you already have the OS, he could go with the 240 mm coolermaster CLC for the $80 you would save.
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I realize he has made his choice but for anyone else in the same situation - I threw together a build that ends up being $917 after rebates.
Complete system with OS , quality case that can house a 240mm radiator, a 1TB WD caviar black and a 7870 tahiti (nearly a match for the 7950 ) video card. I have the GD-80V2 that I chose , it has pushed my 8350 to 5.6Ghz + on an H-100 - actually prefer it to my CHV-Z.
If you already have the OS, he could go with the 240 mm coolermaster CLC for the $80 you would save.

5.6ghz on a H100? With what 1 core active? Going to need to prove that to me
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5.6ghz on a H100? With what 1 core active? Going to need to prove that to me
Winprime 32 stable - 8 cores 5.525 ghz ( cold ambients) Anything higher I couldn't use all 8 cores, above 5.6ghz was validation only.
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Winprime 32 stable - 8 cores 5.525 ghz ( cold ambients) Anything higher I couldn't use all 8 cores, above 5.6ghz was validation only.

That voltage. Very nice thumb.gif
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