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One thing I found interesting in all the Haswell reviews is that the AMD chips held their own pretty well. The 8350's are pretty decent. I asked about this in another thread but it seems at low res the AMD chips get their butts kicked. But how realistic is this or what would be the point exactly?


I am probably going to go with a sandybridge build since I have one but if I sell it I'm going to grab a 8350 or 8320 to support the little guys.
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One thing I found interesting in all the Haswell reviews is that the AMD chips held their own pretty well. The 8350's are pretty decent. I asked about this in another thread but it seems at low res the AMD chips get their butts kicked. But how realistic is this or what would be the point exactly?


I am probably going to go with a sandybridge build since I have one but if I sell it I'm going to grab a 8350 or 8320 to support the little guys.

The 8350 is 45.6% behind the Asus 4770K
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If your going to MC this is a very easy choice a 229$ 3770k and do not look back.
    
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If your going to MC this is a very easy choice a 229$ 3770k and do not look back.

Hokies there's no point. The 4770K will be 299
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Hokies there's no point. The 4770K will be 299

Benches show the 3770k and 4770k pretty even other then IGPU

IB to Haswell less performance difference then SB to IB... This will be the first generation cpu i ever skip...
    
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the games out now using 8 cores do not also use multi threaded rendering because it is not cost effective to add into the programming of the games due to the old consoles limiting it with dx9 only dx11 brings true multi threaded rendering and the games we see now for PC with DX11-DX11.1 are only seeing part of the benefit or ability of DX11 when it comes to multi threaded rendering and actual multi threaded capability with games.

I'm sorry. But: doh.gif. Not even going to go into the reason that this exact statement is about the dumbest thing I've ever read on this forum. And that's saying something considered I've lurked here far longer than I've had my account here to post.

Stop trying to predict the future. It never works. Sane people on this forum go by what we know now in terms of performance. Right now. The FX-8350 is worse performing in nearly everything compared to a 4-core i5-3570k. No ifs, ands, or buts. You'd have to be blind to skip over all of the proof.

This is a forum where people try to achieve performance for what they can get. The FX-8350 isn't good performance for what he can get. Stop trying to persuade your opinion of a lesser CPU being better than a more than proven and far more capable CPU. Its getting ridiculous and your arguments are now getting so tenuous that its getting sad. OP wants to know information. Stop trying to feed wrong information.

And no. I'm not a fan of either Intel or AMD before you shove that on me. I'll go with whatever performs better when I'm ready to buy and what I can afford.
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I'm sorry. But: doh.gif. Not even going to go into the reason that this exact statement is about the dumbest thing I've ever read on this forum. And that's saying something considered I've lurked here far longer than I've had my account here to post.

Stop trying to predict the future. It never works. Sane people on this forum go by what we know now in terms of performance. Right now. The FX-8350 is worse performing in nearly everything compared to a 4-core i5-3570k. No ifs, ands, or buts. You'd have to be blind to skip over all of the proof.

This is a forum where people try to achieve performance for what they can get. The FX-8350 isn't good performance for what he can get. Stop trying to persuade your opinion of a lesser CPU being better than a more than proven and far more capable CPU. Its getting ridiculous and your arguments are now getting so tenuous that its getting sad. OP wants to know information. Stop trying to feed wrong information.

And no. I'm not a fan of either Intel or AMD before you shove that on me. I'll go with whatever performs better when I'm ready to buy and what I can afford.

Dont even waste your time on him.
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wow this thread is still going. Well ithanks didn't buy my system I decided to wait for haswell. Can you guys give me a build for 900 is for haswell including os it can fluctuate some.
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wow this thread is still going. Well ithanks didn't buy my system I decided to wait for haswell. Can you guys give me a build for 900 is for haswell including os it can fluctuate some.

good luck on that one for haswell your budget of $900 wont get you a very good setup quality wise or offer you much overclocking potential for $900.


Basicaly with a $900 budget you will likely be skimping it on quality in a few areas period which is not wise to do when you expect to rely and game on this machine and literaly torture it with alot of hours of gaming hardcore and such last thing you want to do is skimp on quality or cooling.

sounds to me like you are trying to play with the big dogs with paper route / weekend lawn mowwing money lol.

to avoid skimping i suggest playing with a budget of around $1500 to give you room for expansion and all good quality components with good warranties and such not to mention added bonuses like games and such supplied with the purchases that will save you a descent chunk of cash with newwer high end releases usualy comes added games / bonusses and such so buy name brands like asus / evga /xfx and so on and avoid alot of the gigabyte gpu's and such most are not very overclocker friendly or have poor built in cooling same goes for alot of the motherboards most have recently changed designs and now skimp on the VRM's and the built in cooling and such for reduced cost to manufacture / produce.

haswell has already been proven not to perform much over previous gen and in most cases not overclock as well either the haswell was designed and is more suited for laptops they focused on the built in graphics on the chip and power efficiency and around 3% average performance increase with a max of around 10% in some situations.

a good real world idea of just this http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/579/Intel_Core_i5_i5-3570K_vs_Intel_Core_i5_i5-4670K.html look at this website i linked and then select benchmarks at top of page there are many more just look online and in this forum and you will see it is so small of a increase it realy isnt worth the hassle or cost to go haswell.
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good luck on that one for haswell your budget of $900 wont get you a very good setup quality wise or offer you much overclocking potential for $900.


Basicaly with a $900 budget you will likely be skimping it on quality in a few areas period which is not wise to do when you expect to rely and game on this machine and literaly torture it with alot of hours of gaming hardcore and such last thing you want to do is skimp on quality or cooling.

sounds to me like you are trying to play with the big dogs with paper route money lol.

haswell has already been proven not to perform much over previous gen and in most cases not overclock as well either the haswell was designed and is more suited for laptops they focused on the built in graphics on the chip and power efficiency and around 3% average performance increase with a max of around 10% in some situations.

a good real world idea of just this http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/579/Intel_Core_i5_i5-3570K_vs_Intel_Core_i5_i5-4670K.html look at this website i linked and then select benchmarks at top of page there are many more just look online and in this forum and you will see it is so small of a increase it realy isnt worth the hassle or cost to go haswell.
well if I have to it spend more I will. My original budget is 1150 for computer os and monitor I got the rest covered.
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