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Z87 extreme 4 @ $160 + 4670K @ $249 = $409
990FX extreme 4 @ $139 + FX 8350 @ $180 = $ 319

Off topic : It would be fun to build a "transformeresque" bumblebee themed rig with that ASROCK Z87 Formula OC board - I like the look of it.

Z87 Extreme 4 is looking to start at 139-149. Dont read into pre release prices.

Z87 Extreme 4 - 139 - 149
Extreme 6 - 169-179
OC formula - 249.99
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It doesn't matter what you get. I can't tell any difference between my i7-975ee at 4.4ghz, my 8350 at 4.0 or at 4.9ghz. They all feel exactly the same. Honestly, if you care about money, you might as well save a bit. If you don't care about the money, then go Intel. As someone above said, do what will make you happy. If you want an AMD chip get it and you'll be happy. Same goes for Intel.
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It doesn't matter what you get. I can't tell any difference between my i7-975ee at 4.4ghz, my 8350 at 4.0 or at 4.9ghz. They all feel exactly the same. Honestly, if you care about money, you might as well save a bit. If you don't care about the money, then go Intel. As someone above said, do what will make you happy. If you want an AMD chip get it and you'll be happy. Same goes for Intel.

8350 and Bloomfield should be the same clock for clock in multithreaded apps
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8350 and Bloomfield should be the same clock for clock in multithreaded apps

Multithreaded or not, I noticed no difference ever in anything.

Edit: Also no unexpected slowdowns or stutter or the like with either. These are high-end cpu's even though they seem low end in comparison to royalty such as the SB-E chips. They all perform quite similarly, and are far more powerful than your average laptop CPU. It just doesn't make a huge difference either way except in synthetic benchmarks.
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Multithreaded or not, I noticed no difference ever in anything.

Just because it isn't noticeable doesn't mean it's not there. I can't tell the difference between a 660 Ti and 680; doesn't mean there isn't a difference

The i5-4670K is every bit the superior CPU. No contest.

OP - You may also want to consider the i7-3770K and -3820 if you are making the drive to Micro Center. Both of these can be had for $230
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Just because it isn't noticeable doesn't mean it's not there. I can't tell the difference between a 660 Ti and 680; doesn't mean there isn't a difference

The i5-4670K is every bit the superior CPU. No contest.

OP - You may also want to consider the i7-3770K and -3820 if you are making the drive to Micro Center. Both of these can be had for $230

What makes the difference important if you can't tell? Does it matter if your socks don't match if it's not noticeable? Does a scratch on your car matter if it's on the undercarriage? Does the difference between 75 and 77 degrees F make it not a nice day out? No, it doesn't. I don't see the point of forcing people to spend money on something that offers no tangible benefits.

Also, why the hell would he drive 12 hours to go to a microcenter? The gas costs would split the difference to a 3930k!

Edit: I'm leaving this thread now, but I'll say this before I do. The Intel IS a better chip. It's also more expensive, and it's not much better. The point is, it doesn't particularly matter one way or the other what he chooses.
Stay Puft spends so much time telling people to buy Intel that he could probably run a second job with all the hours instead and give away 3570k's with his earnings. That would be a more productive way to convince people that Intel CPU's are worth it.
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Just because it isn't noticeable doesn't mean it's not there. I can't tell the difference between a 660 Ti and 680; doesn't mean there isn't a difference

The i5-4670K is every bit the superior CPU. No contest.

OP - You may also want to consider the i7-3770K and -3820 if you are making the drive to Micro Center. Both of these can be had for $230

Only difference is that X79 boards arent discounted
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What makes the difference important if you can't tell? Does it matter if your socks don't match if it's not noticeable? Does a scratch on your car matter if it's on the undercarriage? Does the difference between 75 and 77 degrees F make it not a nice day out? No, it doesn't. I don't see the point of forcing people to spend money on something that offers no tangible benefits.

We are after the most performance for our money are we not? If so, you bet your ass it matters thumb.gif

FX-8350 = Budget
i5- & i7- = Performance

Simple as that
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We are after the most performance for our money are we not? If so, you bet your ass it matters thumb.gif

FX-8350 = Budget
i5- & i7- = Performance

Simple as that

Ok I came back because your statement is fallacious. For starters, I don't see how the 8350 performing only a few % worse on average than an Intel unit is budget. Secondly
Performace for our money = Units of performance / $. The 8350 and 3570k are about the same there. So no, not quite as simple as you seem to think.

Why are you guys so hell bent on selling Intel CPU's? I just don't get it. I actually don't prefer one or the other, I just can't stand seeing masses of Intel lovers rushing every prospective CPU buyer trying to convince people that their opinion is fact.

These are our only facts:
Intel is a bit faster
AMD is a bit cheaper

This is subjective:
Is it worth it for me to buy an Intel chip over an AMD chip?

Maybe if we knew the OP's disposable income, the utility he would gain from the chip and if we could subjectively measure which one he subconsciously wants more, we could perhaps come to a conclusion as to which one he should buy. The decision is his though, so rather than telling him which is better for you, how about you realistically weigh the Pros and Cons of each? That's much more useful. Allow me to give you an example:

Dear OP:
The Haswell chip will be more expensive at launch, so you need to consider whether you want to pay a little more for the newest thing, or save some money (which could go towards a GPU or SSD) and get the last gen. Also, Ivy bridge is a dead socket, and AM3+ only has one more generation in, though LGA1150 probably only has one more generation too, so AMD and Haswell are on equal terms as far as upgrades go down the road.

I'm going to go get drunk now. Bai. Best of luck op and sorry this turned into an argument. I had a meh day and felt like arguing on the internet to work it off.
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neither, Ivy i7 for cheap at Microcenter if you have one near you is the best bet. (i7-3770k for $230 instead of a FX-8350 that is $180 or i5 for $160-190)

If not, go for a Ivy i5 for about $180-200.

The only time an AMD CPU is better than an i5 is if you are using all 8 cores.

If he had an MC near him he could get an 8320 for 139.99 with 40$ off a mobo.
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