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I think you lost the whole point before we had this little convo.


His CPU was holding him back.
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Originally Posted by amd655 View Post

I think you lost the whole point before we had this little convo.


His CPU was holding him back.


Just as the cpu was holding back the Intel users in the examples that I gave?


The only difference is what you want to believe smile.gif

It could have been a lot of things - none of which you or I could prove or disprove.
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Just as the cpu was holding back the Intel users in the examples that I gave?


The only difference is what you want to believe smile.gif

It could have been a lot of things - none of which you or I could prove or disprove.

The difference being that the OP in the 590 thread actually switched to an intel platform and was then able to fully utilize all his GPUs...
 
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Right firstly, comparing 4 680's to 4 580's is ridiculous, 4 580's =/= 2 680's almost....

The CPU overhead is far larger with 680's.

Reminds me of the 7870 vs 7970 crap you pulled earlier in this thread, pathetic.
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The difference being that the OP in the 590 thread actually switched to an intel platform and was then able to fully utilize all his GPUs...

That in itself would entail a wealth of changes that could account for a great deal of the difference , with little reflection upon the cpu's ability.

I've seen a V sync setting account for such a difference on it's on accord.
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Originally Posted by cssorkinman View Post

Just as the cpu was holding back the Intel users in the examples that I gave?


The only difference is what you want to believe smile.gif

It could have been a lot of things - none of which you or I could prove or disprove.

The difference being that the OP in the 590 thread actually switched to an intel platform and was then able to fully utilize all his GPUs...
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I have to say there are truly so many variables that will cause issues with multiple graphics card setups and even single GPU setups for example lack of x16 pci slots being used for crossfire / sli and also a weak controller on the pcie or in general a lacking motherboard for what is being attempted with the superior hardware the GPU / GPU's ( another reason not to skimp on the motherboard ) there are so many variables going all the way to conflicting software or driver issues or simply lack of crossfire / sli support on given games / drivers and also the hardrive itself can limit stuff via hardrive hitching / stuttering common with mechanical drives.

facts are it is very hard to flat out say it is CPU doing the issue it comes down to so many variables that can takes hours or even days to figure out with math and trial and error with multiple motherboards and such even the ram speeds and timings will affect crossfire / sli multiple card configurations also NB frequency and quality will have alot to do with this also so flat out saying every issue is CPU is like saying that ferrari is fast yet it has a ford escort engine stuck in it or that ford escort is slow yet it has a v8 race engine in it facts are there are so many variables it isnt even funny and not enough space to explain them here.

basicaly most of time someone says it is because of the CPU there are also another 100 or so possibilities that will do exact same thing including lack of ram speed and very loose timings especialy significant with AMD they love tight timings and 1866mhz ram@1t on the FX 8350 / hardrive hitching and stuttering / driver issues / conflicting software / lack of support by game or drivers / bad pcie controller on motherboard or bad performing one very common on budget motherboards for Intel and AMD( reason not to skimp here ) / NB speed when it seems it hits a CPU limitation on 8350 overclocking here will often eleviate alot of the limitation / windows issues involving windows aero ( reason hardcore benchers / testers disable this ) do research this often conflicts with sli and crossfire and single GPU performance alike ( eats GPU and CPU and ram resources in background so the utilization you see put towards game being played is not legit or valid and often all over the place ) has since vista days / the list goes on these are just a few issues that affect Intel and AMD also nvidia / ati in single and multiple gpu situations.

these dont even get into the benefit of overclocking the CPU's which often show a large increase in perfromance across board as long as done right and take into account other areas needing to be overclocked also for AMD FX 83XX like NB and tighten ram timings and get ram to 1866mhz@1t.
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I had 480 sli running 8x 8x lanes, i had 100% usage on both GPU's with my 2500k at 4.0ghz..............................................................
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Right firstly, comparing 4 680's to 4 580's is ridiculous, 4 580's =/= 2 680's almost....

The CPU overhead is far larger with 680's.

Reminds me of the 7870 vs 7970 crap you pulled earlier in this thread, pathetic.
And what of the 670 sli example?

I am trying to help the OP.
As for my comparison of 7870 vs 7970 it directly pertained to the OP's question in that for the same money invested , he could have an AMD system that could ( and in this case did ) score better than an Intel at a given benchmark. Stay puft's score was from the top 30 single card scores in these forum, a very respectable effort for the gpu he used. My grpahics score with the 7970 was mediocre , guys with the same cpu on air are claiming close to 11K.
That is magnitudes more significant to the OP than your posts about quad sli - they have precious little bearing in this thread as the OP has no budget or intention of building such a system.
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I have to say there are truly so many variables that will cause issues with multiple graphics card setups for example lack of x16 pci slots being used for crossfire / sli and also a weak controller on the pcie or in general a lacking motherboard for what is being attempted with the superior hardware the GPU's ( another reason not to skimp on the motherboard ) there are so many variables going all the way to conflicting software or driver issues or simply lack of crossfire / sli support on given games / drivers and also the hardrive itself can limit stuff via hardrive hitching / stuttering common with mechanical drives.

facts are it is very hard to flat out say it is CPU doing the issue it comes down to so many variables that can takes hours or even days to figure out with math and trial and error with multiple motherboards and such even the ram speeds / timings will affect crossfire / sli multiple card configurations also NB frequency / quality will have alot to do with this also so flat out saying every issue is CPU is like saying that ferrari is fast yet it has a ford escort engine stuck in it or that ford escort is slow yet it has a v8 race engine in it facts are there are so many variables it isnt even funny and not enough space to explain them here.

basicaly most of time someone says it is because of the CPU there are also another 100 or so possibilities that will do exact same thing including lack of ram speed / hardrive hitching and stuttering / driver issues / conflicting software / lack of support by game or drivers / bad pcie controller on motherboard or bad performing one / NB speed / windows issues involving windows aero do research this often conflicts with sli and crossfire has since vista days / the list goes on these are just a few issues that affect Intel and AMD also nvidia / ati in single and multiple gpu situations.
blah blah, blah blah.....
all I got from looking at it and trying to read the first sentence.
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