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And what of the 670 sli example?

I am trying to help the OP.
As for my comparison of 7870 vs 7970 it directly pertained to the OP's question in that for the same money invested , he could have an AMD system that could ( and in this case did ) score better than an Intel at a given benchmark. Stay puft's score was from the top 30 single card scores in these forum, a very respectable effort for the gpu he used. My grpahics score with the 7970 was mediocre , guys with the same cpu on air are claiming close to 11K.
That is magnitudes more significant to the OP than your posts about quad sli - they have precious little bearing in this thread as the OP has no budget or intention of building such a system.

You are purposely defeating the objective with random crap, what happened has happened, CPU BOTTLENECK.
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You are purposely defeating the objective with random crap, what happened has happened, CPU BOTTLENECK.

So it's not possible that the change in motherboard, fresh OS install , different game settings, driver update and gpu configuration settings had even the tiniest bit to do with the difference he saw?

( still not sure what it has to do with this situation in the least, the op isn't considering the purchase an 8150 or quadfire sli )
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You are purposely defeating the objective with random crap, what happened has happened, CPU BOTTLENECK.

So it's not possible that the change in motherboard, fresh OS install , different game settings, driver update and gpu configuration settings had even the tiniest bit to do with the difference he saw?

( still not sure what it has to do with this situation in the least, the op isn't considering the purchase an 8150 or quadfire sli )

i seriously hope he isnt looking at a AMD fx 8150 they dont perform well at all the 8350 on otherhand pulls its weight very well.

also i hope he isnt also looking at quad crossfire / sli with his budget if he attempted to do so he would be runnning quad ati hd 4890's or quad sli 9800 gt's 512mb lol and alot lowwer performing CPU to even think about doing so.

basicaly with his budget that cuts out even dual cards of modern generation minus 550ti's in sli or dual hd 7770's in crossfire which i would like to point out both actualy perform pretty well but i always advise a strong single gpu solution then maybe later add another and so on.
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So you guys seed try to find a second hand cpu? Wouldn't that void the warranty and what if it cam damaged? That's why I'd rather spend more on a brand new one.
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So you guys seed try to find a second hand cpu? Wouldn't that void the warranty and what if it cam damaged? That's why I'd rather spend more on a brand new one.

?

Ive bought atleast 50 Used Cpus in my day.. never had an issue...

All u need is the invoice for warranty...

If somebody sends u a damged cpu u file a paypal claim and get ur money back...

The chances of that happening are like 100000 to 1.
    
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Rickcooperjr has been telling me games will start to use more than four course due to new consoles. He seed they have been testing multithreaded games since 2009 and optimizing them. Do you guys think that games will really start to use more I read alot of sites that say yes and alot that say no. If they start to use more cores soon I guess I'll have to throw in some more money and go with a 3770k or haswell i7. I just don't really want to have to spend more
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Rickcooperjr has been telling me games will start to use more than four course due to new consoles. He seed they have been testing multithreaded games since 2009 and optimizing them. Do you guys think that games will really start to use more I read alot of sites that say yes and alot that say no. If they start to use more cores soon I guess I'll have to throw in some more money and go with a 3770k or haswell i7. I just don't really want to have to spend more

Fwiw, using more cores does seem to be the trend in all manner of software for desktop/mobile/server. Individual cores aren't getting appreciably faster; so to do more work, need to use more cores. If PC games are to push new limits wrt to processing power, is there any other other option?

I don't know what kind of processor you have (assuming i5'ish), but If/when you need to upgrade, might be smart to look for more cores as part of that upgrade. If you do have a sb or ib i5, no compelling reason to upgrade yet afaict. If you have a first gen nehalem (like me), the larger reason to upgrade is for native modern sata, usb, pci connectivity, in addition to a decent increase in cpu performance. At least... thats how i see it.

> Rickcooperj... since 2009

Unless rick is in the game development business, not sure i'd put much value on random comments like that.
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Fwiw, using more cores does seem to be the trend in all manner of software for desktop/mobile/server. Individual cores aren't getting appreciably faster; so to do more work, need to use more cores. If PC games are to push new limits wrt to processing power, is there any other other option?

I don't know what kind of processor you have (assuming i5'ish), but If/when you need to upgrade, might be smart to look for more cores as part of that upgrade. If you do have a sb or ib i5, no compelling reason to upgrade yet afaict. If you have a first gen nehalem (like me), the larger reason to upgrade is for native modern sata, usb, pci connectivity, in addition to a decent increase in cpu performance. At least... thats how i see it.

> Rickcooperj... since 2009

Unless rick is in the game development business, not sure i'd put much value on random comments like that.
you must be new to this thread... I don't got any processor atm read first page
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you must be new to this thread... I don't got any processor atm read first page

oh, your the op of this hijacked thread smile.gif I've seen the rants and raves go on and on for days w/o following the details.

If it were me wanting to buy a pc right now, I'd get an i7-4770k setup... plenty-o-cores, on a mobo with lots of connectivity, and a socket that will be around for a while. If the difference in price between an i5 and i7 were really an issue, i'd get the i5 now instead (leaving the option to upgrade if/when needed later). jmho.
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you must be new to this thread... I don't got any processor atm read first page

oh, your the op of this hijacked thread smile.gif I've seen the rants and raves go on and on for days w/o following the details.

If it were me wanting to buy a pc right now, I'd get an i7-4770k setup... plenty-o-cores, on a mobo with lots of connectivity, and a socket that will be around for a while. If the difference in price between an i5 and i7 were really an issue, i'd get the i5 now instead (leaving the option to upgrade if/when needed later). jmho.

he is on $900ish budget remind you and that has to cover everything including OS / optical drive / hardrive / PSU / Graphics card / CPU / motherboard / ram / tower / fans / cooling / keyboard / mouse you name it he has a total budget of like $1150 total for monitor / OS and everything.
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