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Im actually thinking about grabbing a 3570K and an Extreme 4 for the hell of it. They're so cheap at MC
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You're worrying way too much with the "Moar Cores" wink.gif thing. Look below



That's BF3 tested with all sets of cores enabled. Even a dual core plays it fine.


Try and think of it like this. The 8350 is a bunch of 8 teensie weensie wittle baby cores that do the work of 4 intel cores in the 3570K.

Would love to see this graph during online game play. You're giving out horrible information...

3770k vs 8350 online below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LFcMRtq1zGo

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Would be interested in some Intel users posting some logs similar to mine this is a 64vs64 online match. I'm not a fanboy and I think its ridiculous to argue over single player benchmarks from popular review websites. fx8350@4.9ghz, 7850@1150mhz/1350mhz, 8gb 1600mhz 9-9-9-24.

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Would be interested in some Intel users posting some logs similar to mine this is a 64vs64 online match. I'm not a fanboy and I think its ridiculous to argue over single player benchmarks from popular review websites. fx8350@4.9ghz, 7850@1150mhz/1350mhz, 8gb 1600mhz 9-9-9-24.

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I'll bang with you but I have a significant advantage in every performance category biggrin.gif

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I'll bang with you but I have a significant advantage in every performance category biggrin.gif

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Cool that would be awesome to see what your rig can put up. I'm using frafsbenchviewer and did a 180second benchmark. Interested to see what an I7 can do at those clocks!
    
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Ill post my Bloomfield 660 sli run tomorrow to compare
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Well actually I'm on a pretty tight budget $900ish usd for it, so maybe the next gen haswell is out of mypprice range.
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Well actually I'm on a pretty tight budget $900ish usd for it, so maybe the next gen haswell is out of mypprice range.

I own an 8350 and have really been enjoying it, I game, encode video, edit photos, troll fanboys. But if I lived anywhere near a micro center I would undoubtedly be running a 3770k.
    
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I'll bang with you but I have a significant advantage in every performance category biggrin.gif

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This game cannot be maxed on this AMD rig, i also tried the 7770 in my intel rig, and produced almost the exact same numbers across the board.

This was tested at 1920x1080 which means lowered details had to be used.



Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
20936, 333795, 10, 147, 62.721


Test conducted under firestorm 64 man for 10 minutes.


Ok, i decided to bench the GTX 480 in the same rig and the same settings, i have a 870mhz oc on the 480 with 4.1ghz memory (not far off it's maximum 24/7 OC, performance at this OC is more comparable to a 7950/ 660Ti with some breathing room of course.

This will see if the Phenom II is bottlenecking...

You may be surprised....

Same 64man server, Operation Firestorm.

2013-05-20 14:32:14 - bf3
Frames: 22081 - Time: 231225ms - Avg: 95.496 - Min: 48 - Max: 149

Now, the only thing we should be looking at is minimum FPS, both GPU's deliver enough frames average and max, but the 7770 in intense action with tanks bombarding shows it's 128 bit bus weakness.

However, the card was cheap, and it does a fine job, so all in all, i am very happy thumb.gif



Intel CPU video with highly clocked GTX 480.


The intel machine took the win in both minimum and max, but was similar in average FPS.

Without me seeing the numbers, my experience was almost exactly the same.
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OP only thing i can say is this watch these videos these were done on nearly identical setups minus one is Intel I5 3570k other is AMD FX 8350 he tried them overclocked and on win7 64bit and win8 64bit he gets down to the nitty gritty with the info price differences / costs of the power in long run / performance overall and so on and also this is done by Linus from Linus tech tips a notorious Intel fanboy ( also sponsored by Intel by the way ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICVeN6WEGgg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD6UcsVG56g http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHnsfIJtZ2o these videos are actualy very well tested with nearly all variables taken out so they are a good basis to make your choices off on modern games at modern resolutions with modern high end settings in otherwards not the BS synthetic testing and testing in general at 800x600 crap non relavent res the tests are done on modern games with actual gameplay with modern res / high end settings.

I would also like to point out the AMD FX 8350 overclocks like a mad man
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2779392 5.0ghz x8 100% percent stable i dont use ti for 24/7 because i dont like where voltage goes underload 1.56v range
http://valid.canardpc.com/2813140 4.8ghz x8 my 24/7 overclock set at idle 1.428v underload it hits 1.448v which is well under safe recommended and is my 24/7 overclock period all eco features off.
with proper tweaking can get alot more performance with more than just cpu overclocking like tightening ram timings running 1866mhz ram@1t and also a slight NB bump ( sweet spot for me is 2400mhz some get 2600mhz ) on the AMD FX 8350 make it jump and run like a scolded dog that just got shot in @#$ with rocksalt.

Also Op if you want to go sli / crossfire dont listen to the BS of it will cripple your multi GPU solutions by going AMD FX 8350 facts are it will hamper on average 3%-7% overall on the crossfire / sli configurations total performance which is a few FPS at max but with the savings it makes up for it meening you can go higher end GPU to start with or get a good portion of the cost of an ssd or faster ram in initial building of system.

I myself have done the math vs a Intel I7 3770k overclocked to 4.6ghz i took a 5% total hit with 3x hd 7970 GPU's in crossfire in overall crossfire performance loss with my overclocking 4.8ghz x8 and such and 1866mhz ram @1t tightened timings and 2400mhz NB and to the nay sayers i am not retesting that was 4 days of hardcore testing that i wont get back i have other things in my life to deal with including a soon to be born daughter.

this is the AMD FX 8150 vs Intel I5 2500k remember this is the older AMD bulldozer but it should still be relavent http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kd4dvLJQP4


Op understand there are alot of Intel fanboys on this site ( I am sure you are noticing this) they pray to the all mighty Intel gods so PLZ take alot of theyre comments and such with a grain of salt facts are in modern games with modern resolutions and proper core utilization the AMD FX 8350 performs perfectly well and stays in good playable for cheaper and has the multithreaded horsepower for work / rendering and such for cheaper the future is multithreaded this is just facts with next gen consoles being 8core AMD's to get games to function properly multithreading will have to be optimized period and considering 90% of games are first made for console then ported to PC do you not see this as an advantage for the AMD in multithreaded situations which is where it shines.

http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/games/1296739/xbox-one-specs-release-date-features-news xbox one formerly called xbox 720 AMD jaquar 8core 1.6ghz x8
http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/games/1298257/ps4-price-release-date-controller-specs-news PS4 AMD jaquar 8core 2.0ghz x8
you can search further on specs and such also these consoles will have AMD APU graphics in DX11 or DX11.1 range of around ATI HD 7760-7870


also OP the latest testing of the haswell cpu's have only shown a 7% perfomance increase over previous gen Intel CPU's and at best case 10% the main performance increase is to the onchip graphics built into the haswell which any high end gamer wont use lol they will go a descrete GPU route. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/core-i7-4770k-haswell-performance,3461.html http://www.techpowerup.com/181582/intel-core-i7-4770k-haswell-tested-not-a-leap-ahead-of-i7-3770k-but-consistent.html http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20130509193636_New_Benchmark_Results_of_Intel_Core_i_Haswell_Hit_the_Web.html http://wccftech.com/intel-haswell-core-i5-sample-pictured-benchmarked/ these are just a few.

OP i put this extra info and such in to make sure you have good info to make your decision from and are not spoon fed biased Intel fanboy BS facts are the AMD FX 8350 is a perfectly viable gaming CPU and is cheaper OP you started this thread to get good info and have pointed out you are on a tight budget so i have laid it out as best i can hope you understand this and for the Intel fanboys stop being so biased it makes you look like idiots rather than inteligent as another poster said lay out the pros and cons which i have.
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