Originally Posted by Heuchler
All the parts I listed are from online dealers (with shipping price included). the OP said Microcenter was somewhat far
away from him (12 hours away). So, he is located within North America.
My final test on an overclocked system is load up Prime95 then launch a game and let it run for a few yours.
I have done this on i7-920 @ 3.8GHz, i5-750 @ 4.0GHz and i5-2500k @4.5GHz along with all my AMD systems.
You will notice a huge difference on the none Hyper-Threading intel CPUs (turning off HT on i7-920 has the
same devastating result). give it a try. i7 or FX-8300 do significantly better than i5.
for all the people that claim the FX-8350 is a bad video game processors how many have overclocked one.
or even used it stock. why do you only find the same 5 games tested on review sites. Note of the site
overclock the memory control on the AMD systems (CPU-NB). Intel has the IMC bound to CPU speed.
So, when you overclock the CPU the memory controller automatically get overclocked.
BTW look how great console ports do on PC. while PC has 10 times the power than Xbox 360.
Except, first off
, your parts list leaves out pretty much the most important damn part in actually running a computer. A HDD/SSD. You are only able to fit an FX-8320 which is measures worse in performance than the i5-3570k (especially since OP can technically reach a Microcenter). And if you planned on putting in a FX-8350, your build would come out at the same budget as a build with an i5-3570k, rebates included. In fact, OP would end up paying more upfront for an FX-8350 build over the i5 build.Second off
, the IMC has nothing to do with the CPU frequency from SB and on-wards. If you want to learn more about it, go read up on Intel's Uncore.Third off
, you have to consider that you are going to need an above average 8350 to even think about hitting 5Ghz stable. And you are going to need a pretty good CPU cooler to do so as the chip runs quite hot. To achieve a 1Ghz over stock overclock, you are going to need quite a good cooler. An i5-3570k will easily hit around 4.4-4.5Ghz stable on something as simple as a Hyper 212 Evo. That is a 0.9-1Ghz overclock over stock. So honestly, the i5-3570k is going to offer even better performance for less of an overall cost, because a good heat-sink is going to add more to the cost of a machine to get a comparable overclock on your FX-8350 to be able to even compete with the 3570k.Fourth off
, the reason those games are particularly shown is because they show the different scenarios where the CPU is the limiting factor in gaming performance (exception of Crysis 3, which shows that the amount of cores has almost no effect whatsoever on performance, and I'm not going to even get into that argument).Fifth off
, why does everyone forget the Biostar TZ77XE3 exists. Its a spectacularly good motherboard that is cheap as heck even not on sale and a very good overclocking board for IB.Sixth off
, you are going to want at minimum something like the Pro R2.0 instead of the Evo R2.0 if you are looking to get the 8350 to good solid overclocks.
Oh, and yes. I've used an 8350 both stock and overclocked. Going to Intel made quite a noticeable difference in gaming performance (stock v stock, oc v oc). Especially in the games that I like playing (RTS, etc.)I like AMD. Hell, I use AMD (for my htpc media/gaming PC), and I've used it previously in a higher end build. But don't even bother trying to justify that their CPUs are even on par for the money for gaming as Intel's CPUs are. They are a niche. In no way would I ever bother putting an AMD in a high end rig until they get their act together, hopefully with Steamroller. As for right now, unless you are building a super budget APU build, Intel is by far a better choice in every way. You can fanboy it up all you want, but the truth is there to back that statement up.
Build that OP could possibly run with the i5-3570k (with a Microcenter near him):PCPartPicker part list
/ Price breakdown by merchant
/ BenchmarksCPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor
($169.99 @ Microcenter)CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler
($29.74 @ Amazon)Motherboard: Biostar TZ77XE3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard
($109.99 @ Amazon)Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory
($61.20 @ Newegg)Storage: Plextor M5P Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk
($119.99 @ NCIX US)Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
($62.98 @ Outlet PC)Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 XT 2GB Video Card
($248.98 @ Newegg)Case: NZXT Source 210 Window ATX Mid Tower Case
($47.98 @ Newegg)Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply
($54.99 @ NCIX US)Total:
$930.84(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-25 22:14 EDT-0400)