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Yes thanks for the reply. More good ideas appreciated Ty.


I think what's happening here is the flat tubing is getting too much suck pressure while the other pumps too much head pressure?
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id recommend priomochill to iv had some 7/16 white and using blood red 1/2 inch right now it never goes flat the red has kinked up up sorta but its a tight space. It almost looks like you have a flow issue no tubing should go flat unless its very cheap stuff made for high flow so it keeps it full at all times. Heres a pic of my setup not perfect but it works needs a paint job and a few new fans but it keeps my stuff nice and cool btw that white piece is in thier cause my clamps wouldnt fit and it leaked from the red if i didnt have clamps so had to use the small 7/16 white tubing i had in that spot.

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post #13 of 39
Are the tubes you're talking about the ones on top of the graphics card? Because if those are the tubes I have a theory. The tubing seems to be physically resting on the graphics cards. Graphics cards make heat, and regardless of how nice of a system you have, it will still generate significant heat... Again, your tubing is physically sitting on the card, and thus the card will heat up the tubing. You also have three blocks on a single pump, and depending on what pump you have you may be experiencing a pressure drop on the return path. So that tubing is being heated up, while there's a pressure drop in the tubing. That sets up all the right circumstances for deformation.

On a side note, throw on some Primochill Anti-kink coils. Sure they are meant to prevent kinks, but they do so by wrapping around the tubing giving it more structural strength. The problem your tubing is lack of structural strength.
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and it really looks like from what you can tell by the photo he has a flow problem or not enugh water in the loop. I dont know what pump he is using but i run my loop off 1 mcp655-b ran fine even ran fine when i had a 5970 an 5870 so i would think his flow should be good with just 3 gpus.
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and it really looks like from what you can tell by the photo he has a flow problem or not enugh water in the loop. I dont know what pump he is using but i run my loop off 1 mcp655-b ran fine even ran fine when i had a 5970 an 5870 so i would think his flow should be good with just 3 gpus.
A lower flowrate wouldn't result in tubing deforming however under certain circumstances a low head pressure definitely would. When talking about multiple graphics cards, pressure will be kind of a big deal. The MCP655 has about 10 feet of heat pressure, which is relatively high. As far as I know the only other retail watercooling pump that has similar pressure is the MCP35x which has 12feet of head pressure. (of course there's the MCP35x2, which has twice the head pressure of the MCP35x(as it's literally just 2 MCP35xs in the same housing))

Under the right circumstances if the head pressure just right, it could cause a pressure drop in the returning fluid. A pressure drop could, on it's own, put stress on tubing to collapse, bind you most tubing is far stronger than needed to properly withhold shape. (I'm using 5/8" ID by 3/4" OD tubing, no deforming issues, not using an anti kink coil)

HOWEVER, if there were certain circumstances in which the tubing was weakened, yeah it could easily result in deforming. This is where my theory on the GPU cards come in tongue.gif
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2 questions
whats your loop order and can you post a pic of your entire loop/pc inside?
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It almost appears to me as if you haven't filed and bled your loop completely...might be wrong though. I could see that causing the flat tube as well, pump not sucking anything in on the inlet side, and not enough water to push the water on the outlet side the full way around the loop, so pushing the outlet side water nowhere, and sucking in air on the inlet side...but it would be noisey as all heck, and I'm sure you would notice that lol This just seems really strange...never seen it this bad before.
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wow, that tubing is literally so flat the first time i looked at the picture i looked right past it. I would definetely replace your tubing. The only tubing i can recommend is black primochill because its the only stuff ive used. It has held up really well for me with distilled water and a silver kill coil for about 4 months with no sign of anything bad on the inside of the tubing. I checked about two weeks ago. Can your tubing just collapse from age and poor quality? Im new to watercooling and ive never seen that before.

Yeah, I can say that the Primochill is really good quality stuff, I did my first loop with it and it just looks and feels great! Seems like it's very kink resistant (very thick walls). Definitely worth the $25 just for the looks alone.
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2 questions
whats your loop order and can you post a pic of your entire loop/pc inside?

Yeah, I'm interested in this...

Also I do think if that is really cheap tubing that the heat from the 480's has heated it up and shrank it down marginally..
 
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post #19 of 39
I agree that the tubing sitting on the hot graphics card could be causing it. It is atleast warming up the tubing and not helping one bit. Good catch ZytheEKS.
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I posted my loop earlier in the thread. I dont believe flattening is caused by heat as the back of the video card doesnt get that hot even under load. Ive felt the flat tube while on load and it was ambient temp. Also keep in mind it gets rid of heat quickly as it is getting cooled down water directly from radiator..Also it starts to flatten as soon as it exits th bix on its way to the reservoir and is flat all the way into the reservoir. I think Its some sort of head pressure problem. I assumed I just rigged it up completely wrong.

Heres the loop.

Reservoid-> pump -> vidcard 1 2 3-> bix 480-> reservoir back to pump.
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