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Hi all,

I have an old rig lying around that I plan to put to use as a linux lab.

-CPU: Intel Pentium Dual-Core E2180 Allendale @ Stock 2.0GHz
-Mobo: GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3L
-RAM: 3GB DDR2
-Video Card: Ati Radeon 3650
-Hard Drives: Western Digital 320GB
-PSU: MSI Turbo stream 500W

My lab will be to set it up as a web server running MySQL with ruby on rails and java.

I am thinking of using ubuntu. Also I want to be able to run a VM on it, preferably VMware so I can also use it as a vsphere lab. I am not sure if the 3GB of ram will cut it though.

also can anyone suggest any other fun linux projects to do, so I can learn how to use linux cli more and some programming.
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Hi all,

I have an old rig lying around that I plan to put to use as a linux lab.

-CPU: Intel Pentium Dual-Core E2180 Allendale @ Stock 2.0GHz
-Mobo: GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3L
-RAM: 3GB DDR2
-Video Card: Ati Radeon 3650
-Hard Drives: Western Digital 320GB
-PSU: MSI Turbo stream 500W

My lab will be to set it up as a web server running MySQL with ruby on rails and java.

I am thinking of using ubuntu. Also I want to be able to run a VM on it, preferably VMware so I can also use it as a vsphere lab. I am not sure if the 3GB of ram will cut it though.

also can anyone suggest any other fun linux projects to do, so I can learn how to use linux cli more and some programming.

With that last part the standard recommendation is doing something from source or if you're really daring from scratch (LFS). So that usually is Gentoo, Slackware, or sourced Arch. From there you could try out the CLI challenge though my link seems to be gone so someone else will have to tell you about it.
     
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yeah I am considering doing something from the source. I am a computer networking student, and just want to basically learn by trying and doing fun projects in my spare time.
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Whatever you do, I would recommend staying away from Ubuntu. Linux Mint Debian if your new, otherwise you could try an arch/gentoo install
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I've used some Ubuntu server and it seemed fine...what's wrong with it?

And ya, you might want more RAM.
 
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post #6 of 15
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Whatever you do, I would recommend staying away from Ubuntu. Linux Mint Debian if your new, otherwise you could try an arch/gentoo install

Don't mind the mindless Ubuntu hate here ^

Ubuntu server is a different beast altogether from the mainline Ubuntu desktop. It is quite good and quite solid as a server.
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Don't mind the mindless Ubuntu hate here ^

Ubuntu server is a different beast altogether from the mainline Ubuntu desktop. It is quite good and quite solid as a server.

To be honest I hate Ubuntu Server even more than I hate Ubuntu Desktop. At least I can forgive the desktop be bloated, but there's so many unnecessary daemons and hoops to jump through for Ubuntu Server it just grinds my gears. Things like the resolve.conf being an unnecessary pig because it's controlled by a daemon. then you have a couple of system watchers that report back to Canonical. Yet in spite of that extra bloat, it seems to miss a lot of sane bloat that I always recommend system administrators install before putting their box live. Stuff like SSH rate limiting with fail2ban. And I still think Ubuntu's password model (ie same password for user logins as to elevate the aforementioned users to super users) is wrong from a security standpoint. You shouldn't allow the same password to SSH into a box to perform core system changes.

Ubuntu Server just seems to get everything wrong in my personal opinion - so I really do think people are better off with vanilla Debian over Ubuntu Server.
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To be honest I hate Ubuntu Server even more than I hate Ubuntu Desktop. At least I can forgive the desktop be bloated, but there's so many unnecessary daemons and hoops to jump through for Ubuntu Server it just grinds my gears. Things like the resolve.conf being an unnecessary pig because it's controlled by a daemon. then you have a couple of system watchers that report back to Canonical. Yet in spite of that extra bloat, it seems to miss a lot of sane bloat that I always recommend system administrators install before putting their box live. Stuff like SSH rate limiting with fail2ban. And I still think Ubuntu's password model (ie same password for user logins as to elevate the aforementioned users to super users) is wrong from a security standpoint. You shouldn't allow the same password to SSH into a box to perform core system changes.

Ubuntu Server just seems to get everything wrong in my personal opinion - so I really do think people are better off with vanilla Debian over Ubuntu Server.

The big point I think you left out, as far as Debian vs Ubuntu in the server aspect is the network install for a minimal install. You'd get much more productivity out of a system because of this. Just thinking from an average perspective, a person might download a full Debian image and not understand how big the bloat issue is unless they played around with the net install for a bare/base system.

On a side note, as far as a personal/home solution. I'd say Arch and Debian are probably equally (depending on preferences) preferred over something like Ubuntu Server.

OT: If you wanted source based, I'd go with either Arch, Slackware, Gentoo, or the Gentoo binary version Sabayon and play with portage. Outside of that, just about anything lets you play and mess with source. A good way to do that is to start building/maintaining your own packages. Each distro does it slightly different but a lot of the major points are the same, especially when it comes to debugging or figuring out why something won't build. Sometimes you have to update packages outside of the repo version, so you end up building and maintaining packages outside of what your original package goal was.

I can't think of any specific examples right now. A general example is where your package won't build because a library or required (package) is too low in the repo, then you have to build that. If it has deps that need specific versions, that has to be done too until everything builds. That will teach you a lot as well.

Mainly, source based distros help you more in the configuration of the system. That depends on the distro and how you trim or customize your system. While I like Arch, too much of it is wiki'd (As opposed to some that just tell you to read the man pages, gets you in those habits, but the wiki'd problem does apply to just about anything these days - thought I'd say that as to not be mean to Arch, just as an example). Though as a beginner, most of that will have to be read anyways to be learned. One of the biggest things you could do would be use something like the AUR in a source distro (portage, AUR, slackbuilds), otherwise in a binary based you can just maintain your own personal packages. It's not an easy route either way but that's the best way of learning.
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On a side note, as far as a personal/home solution. I'd say Arch and Debian are probably equally (depending on preferences) preferred over something like Ubuntu Server.

I'm not trying to say that people "shouldn't" run Ubuntu Server. People can install whatever the hell they want. And it's not like Ubuntu Server is unstable or insecure. I just think Canonical missed the point of a server OS with Ubuntu and thus don't like it personally.
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I'm not trying to say that people "shouldn't" run Ubuntu Server. People can install whatever the hell they want. And it's not like Ubuntu Server is unstable or insecure. I just think Canonical missed the point of a server OS with Ubuntu and thus don't like it personally.

Well I'm just agreeing, I do find some reasons to run it. somebody who doesn't want to learn, or doesn't have the time, can run a generic server with it. Just if you want to get down to something decent, I think their are better options with somewhat easy solutions.

In no way would I say don't use it (Just wouldn't say to use it), just think their are better personal solutions. As advice goes, you can say what to do but it's ultimately up to the person to know their own needs and wants.
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