Overclock.net › Forums › Industry News › Video Game News › [Anandtech] Microsoft "hopes" developers will make games unplayable offline
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

[Anandtech] Microsoft "hopes" developers will make games unplayable offline - Page 8

post #71 of 112
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blooddrunk View Post

Something to think about though, is will devs really appreciate having to probably pay microsoft to store their code in MS's servers?

I think if anything they'll do the drug dealer approach wink.gif First few hits are free to get you hooked ...then they got ya. Or I would not put it above them to just eat the cost of it for awhile in exchange for exclusives or Xbox One only features. Look at what they were willing to pay for an NFL deal or look a little further back at the GTA exclusive deal at what 50 million for a month or so was it?
post #72 of 112
Quote:
Originally Posted by coachmark2 View Post

This "journalist" absolutely sucks at writing an unbiased article....

1. Microsoft opens Azure cloud resources to game developers
2. These resources actually do require an internet connection go send and receive data
3. Microsoft spends tons of money developing software and cloud infrastructure.
4. Microsoft says they hope developers use it

annnnnnndd then everyone and their mother comes crawling out of the woodwork screaming "Ermagerd!! Microsoft hopes developers make always on DRM. DEY AR TEH SUCKXORS"

seriously get a grip. This is such deception in writing its almost fair to call it lying. Shameful really.

Before anyone mentions EA/Simcity, their servers used to "help run the game" were found out to be fraudulent and didn't really do that much heavy lifting. This is another matter entirely.

terrible terrible clickbait.

There you go. Someone who actually read the article and not just the title.
M1 Abrams
(18 items)
 
Asus G53
(0 items)
Asus G771
(8 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 3930K Asus Sabertooth X79 Geforce GTX 780 EVGA SC 3GB + XSPC Waterblock Patriot Viper 3 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3 2133 
Hard DriveCoolingCoolingOS
SAMSUNG 840 Series 250GB XIGMATEK Dark Knight II Night Hawk Edition  XSPC 360mm radiator, Raystorm CPU block, D5 pump Windows 10 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
Samsung 2233RZ 22" 120hz QNIX QX2710 27" 100hz Logitech g710+ Corsair AX850  
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Corsair Vengeance Series C70 Military Green (Cu... Razer DeathAdder 3.5G Mouse Rug Bose Companion III's Speakers 
AudioAudio
Sennheiser HD 558 Headphones Sennheiser HD 6XX Headphones 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel 4710MQ Stock OEM Asus laptop board? Nvidia GTX860M 12GB DDR3L  
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Crucial M550 256GB SSD 750GB HDD 7200rpm Windows 8.1 17.3" IPS display (LGD046C) 
  hide details  
Reply
M1 Abrams
(18 items)
 
Asus G53
(0 items)
Asus G771
(8 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 3930K Asus Sabertooth X79 Geforce GTX 780 EVGA SC 3GB + XSPC Waterblock Patriot Viper 3 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3 2133 
Hard DriveCoolingCoolingOS
SAMSUNG 840 Series 250GB XIGMATEK Dark Knight II Night Hawk Edition  XSPC 360mm radiator, Raystorm CPU block, D5 pump Windows 10 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
Samsung 2233RZ 22" 120hz QNIX QX2710 27" 100hz Logitech g710+ Corsair AX850  
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Corsair Vengeance Series C70 Military Green (Cu... Razer DeathAdder 3.5G Mouse Rug Bose Companion III's Speakers 
AudioAudio
Sennheiser HD 558 Headphones Sennheiser HD 6XX Headphones 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel 4710MQ Stock OEM Asus laptop board? Nvidia GTX860M 12GB DDR3L  
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Crucial M550 256GB SSD 750GB HDD 7200rpm Windows 8.1 17.3" IPS display (LGD046C) 
  hide details  
Reply
post #73 of 112
Quote:
Originally Posted by Socks keep you warm View Post

I don't know what the problem is? Almost everyone is online on there Xbox anyway.
It's just them trying to crack down on Jtags and modified xboxs which have ruined plenty of games in the past.
I understand people want freedom to save to there HDD and to be able to play the game forever, but this is just silly. These are things that will help the end user, it will be unnoticeable to a lot of people though.

People need to stop assuming everyone has a good internet connection. Hell, a connection at all. There are still areas in the United States where dial-up or possibly satellite is their only option. Not to mention the rest of the world where there may not be internet at all.
Gnomeon
(16 items)
 
GnomeBook Pro
(13 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Xeon E3-1245 V2 ASUS P8Z77-V SAPPHIRE TRI-X OC Radeon R9 290X 4GB  Crucial Ballistix Tactical 16GB DDR3 1866 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Crucial M550 256GB HGST Travelstar 7K1000 2.5-Inch 1TB 7200 RPM Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
BenQ XL2730Z Cooler Master Quickfire Pro Unbranded (Tenkeyless) SeaSonic SG12 550W Fractal Design Define S 
MouseAudioAudioOther
Mionix Avior Swan M10 Philips Fidelio X1 Audio-Technica ATR2500-USB 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7-2720QM Logic Board Intel HD Graphics 3000 and AMD 6750M 1gb Crucial 16GB 1333MHZ 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
750gb Hitachi 5400rpm 8x double-layer SuperDrive OS x 10.7.4 15.4" LED-backlit glossy widescreen display 144... 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Apple Keyboard Apple 85W MagSafe Power Adapter 2011 Unibody Magic Trackpad 
Audio
Built-in Stereo Speakers with Subwoofer 
  hide details  
Reply
Gnomeon
(16 items)
 
GnomeBook Pro
(13 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Xeon E3-1245 V2 ASUS P8Z77-V SAPPHIRE TRI-X OC Radeon R9 290X 4GB  Crucial Ballistix Tactical 16GB DDR3 1866 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Crucial M550 256GB HGST Travelstar 7K1000 2.5-Inch 1TB 7200 RPM Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
BenQ XL2730Z Cooler Master Quickfire Pro Unbranded (Tenkeyless) SeaSonic SG12 550W Fractal Design Define S 
MouseAudioAudioOther
Mionix Avior Swan M10 Philips Fidelio X1 Audio-Technica ATR2500-USB 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7-2720QM Logic Board Intel HD Graphics 3000 and AMD 6750M 1gb Crucial 16GB 1333MHZ 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
750gb Hitachi 5400rpm 8x double-layer SuperDrive OS x 10.7.4 15.4" LED-backlit glossy widescreen display 144... 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Apple Keyboard Apple 85W MagSafe Power Adapter 2011 Unibody Magic Trackpad 
Audio
Built-in Stereo Speakers with Subwoofer 
  hide details  
Reply
post #74 of 112
Quote:
Originally Posted by majin662 View Post

I think if anything they'll do the drug dealer approach wink.gif First few hits are free to get you hooked ...then they got ya. Or I would not put it above them to just eat the cost of it for awhile in exchange for exclusives or Xbox One only features. Look at what they were willing to pay for an NFL deal or look a little further back at the GTA exclusive deal at what 50 million for a month or so was it?
After hearing how much they charge for updates over XBL I highly doubt they will do anything free.
Hooptie
(18 items)
 
Ghetto Jemima
(14 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7 4770k Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD4H EVGA GTX 660 8GB Gskill Sniper Series 1866 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
250GB Samsung 840 SSD 500GB WD Green 2TB Seagate Barracuda  Thermaltake Frio 
OSMonitorMonitorMonitor
Windows 8.1 ASUS 24" LED ASUS 21.5" LCD crap dell 4:3 LCD 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Ducky Shine 3 White LED Cherry MX Blue Corsair HX750 Corsair Carbide 200R Logitech G700 
Mouse PadAudio
Mionix Sargas 320 Asus Xonar DGX 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
E7300 @ 3.4 Gigabyte GA-73PVM-S2H XFX 5770 4GB DDR2 800 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
500 GB Windows 7 Pro 21.5" Asus Gigabyte Aivia Osmium 
MouseMouse PadAudio
Logitech G400 $5 Cloth pad Philips O'neal Stretch Headphones 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5 2500k 4.7 1.375v EVGA P67 SLI Micro EVGA GTX 660 8GB G.Skill Sniper Series 1866 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Samsung 840 250 GB SSD 2TB Seagate Barracuda 500 GB WD  Thermaltake Frio 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Ultimate 24" LED ASUS + 21.5" ASUS Ducky Shine 3 Cherry MX Blue White LED Corsair HX750 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Corsair Carbide Series 200R Logitech G700 Mionix Sargas 320 Philips O'neill Stretch Headphones 
AudioAudio
ASUS Xonar DGX Zalman Clip on mic  
  hide details  
Reply
Hooptie
(18 items)
 
Ghetto Jemima
(14 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7 4770k Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD4H EVGA GTX 660 8GB Gskill Sniper Series 1866 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
250GB Samsung 840 SSD 500GB WD Green 2TB Seagate Barracuda  Thermaltake Frio 
OSMonitorMonitorMonitor
Windows 8.1 ASUS 24" LED ASUS 21.5" LCD crap dell 4:3 LCD 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Ducky Shine 3 White LED Cherry MX Blue Corsair HX750 Corsair Carbide 200R Logitech G700 
Mouse PadAudio
Mionix Sargas 320 Asus Xonar DGX 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
E7300 @ 3.4 Gigabyte GA-73PVM-S2H XFX 5770 4GB DDR2 800 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
500 GB Windows 7 Pro 21.5" Asus Gigabyte Aivia Osmium 
MouseMouse PadAudio
Logitech G400 $5 Cloth pad Philips O'neal Stretch Headphones 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5 2500k 4.7 1.375v EVGA P67 SLI Micro EVGA GTX 660 8GB G.Skill Sniper Series 1866 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Samsung 840 250 GB SSD 2TB Seagate Barracuda 500 GB WD  Thermaltake Frio 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Ultimate 24" LED ASUS + 21.5" ASUS Ducky Shine 3 Cherry MX Blue White LED Corsair HX750 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Corsair Carbide Series 200R Logitech G700 Mionix Sargas 320 Philips O'neill Stretch Headphones 
AudioAudio
ASUS Xonar DGX Zalman Clip on mic  
  hide details  
Reply
post #75 of 112
Hahaha what a great quote. Thanks!
Loving the bad press MS is getting. Too bad they aren't listening.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Binary Ecyrb View Post

I found this post from a guy at the fark.com posting on the news about Xbox One and its so epically awesome and truthful I had to share it
Quote:
What I get out of the Xbox One announcement is that MS doesn't want to compete with Sony and Nintendo. Instead, they want to compete with Steam. So let's compare Steam with XBox One. Steam runs on any PC, so I can upgrade. Steam supports offline mode, which XBox One does not. Steam has a large, established base of games, which can be modded, while XBox One will be coming out with a handful of games that can't be modded. XBox titles usually also come out on Steam, at least the ones I've cared about. Hmmm... seems to me that Steam wins hands down.

MS also is touting the "entertainment hub" thing again. OK, so let me check my home theater setup. I have an XBox 360, a PS 3, a Tivo, a cable box, and a Pioneer Elite receiver. Which of these would an XBox One replace? It can't play my old games, so the XBox 360 stays. The PS 3 stays. Cable box... yep still need that. Tivo stays, because the XBox isn't a DVR. Yep, still need my receiver. So... far from being a hub, the XBox One is just another box in the mix.

All in all, the XBox One looks to be the Windows 8 of consoles.
My Beast
(28 items)
 
HTPC/Server
(10 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i3 2105 Asus P8H77-I Intel 3000 Corsair Vengeance CML4GX3M2A1600C9 
Hard DriveHard DriveOSKeyboard
Western Digital RE4 Western Digital Black Windows 8 Professional Logitech K400 
PowerCase
Antec EarthWatts EA-380D Lian Li PC-Q25B 
  hide details  
Reply
My Beast
(28 items)
 
HTPC/Server
(10 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i3 2105 Asus P8H77-I Intel 3000 Corsair Vengeance CML4GX3M2A1600C9 
Hard DriveHard DriveOSKeyboard
Western Digital RE4 Western Digital Black Windows 8 Professional Logitech K400 
PowerCase
Antec EarthWatts EA-380D Lian Li PC-Q25B 
  hide details  
Reply
post #76 of 112
It's funny reading through the thread and quickly being able to determine those who actually read the source from those who just read the title of a poorly chosen article and decided to post useless nonsense in order to increase their post count. But, what can you expect when people now have the attention span of a gnat.

OCN. Always entertaining.

That said.... 70....5.
post #77 of 112
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gnomepatrol View Post

People need to stop assuming everyone has a good internet connection. Hell, a connection at all. There are still areas in the United States where dial-up or possibly satellite is their only option. Not to mention the rest of the world where there may not be internet at all.

People need to stop assuming Microsoft doesn't know this and simply doesn't consider those people their target audience anymore.

"It's not for me and that makes me MAD!" is what a lot of the objections boil down to tbqh.
The Obelisk
(19 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
i7 2600k Asus Maximus IV Extreme-Z (Z68) Asus GTX 570 DirectCU II  EVGA 9800GT ECO 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
8GB Corsair Vengeance 1600mhz  WD Black 1TB OCZ Vertex 2 90GB OCZ Agility 4 128GB 
Hard DriveOSMonitorMonitor
Samsung 840 128GB Windows 7 Professional 64-bit ViewSonic VX2250 Asus VE248 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G110 Corsair AX850 Corsair 800D Logitech G600 
Mouse PadAudio
C4 NGen Logitech G930 Headset 
  hide details  
Reply
The Obelisk
(19 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
i7 2600k Asus Maximus IV Extreme-Z (Z68) Asus GTX 570 DirectCU II  EVGA 9800GT ECO 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
8GB Corsair Vengeance 1600mhz  WD Black 1TB OCZ Vertex 2 90GB OCZ Agility 4 128GB 
Hard DriveOSMonitorMonitor
Samsung 840 128GB Windows 7 Professional 64-bit ViewSonic VX2250 Asus VE248 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G110 Corsair AX850 Corsair 800D Logitech G600 
Mouse PadAudio
C4 NGen Logitech G930 Headset 
  hide details  
Reply
post #78 of 112
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blooddrunk View Post

After hearing how much they charge for updates over XBL I highly doubt they will do anything free.

Very true. I think though they're going to be trying very hard to get developer support so that long term they establish good working relationships in hopes that say 5-7 years into its life cycle they can move more to a cloud based system. I know amd and nvidia have been working on cloud based game platforms...I think ms wants to position themselves for the inevitable direction that games seem to be taking.

I don't think they'll create good relationships if they're nickel and diming game developers this round.
post #79 of 112
I think as far as offline play, they may disable features in games and whatnot, which I think makes a lot more sense.
 
Gsvlip Dudyrm
(15 items)
 
Oda'maksv
(9 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
3770k @ 4.5 1.312 load Zotac Z77 ITX Wifi GTX 1070 Gaming 2126/2249 w/ Hybrid cooler TridentX 16GB 2400MHz 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
Samsung 850 Pro 1TB Seagate 2TB H105 EVGA Hybrid GPU cooler 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 10 Asus MG279Q - 24" 144Hz 1080p Filco Majestic II w/ Cherry Reds Seasonic X 760W 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Bitfelix Prodigy Logitech G400 Razer Goliath AKG A701 
AudioAudio
JDS Labs Objective 2 JDS Labs ODAC 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i5 750 3.99 (190x21) 1.376v Load ASUS P7P55d-E Pro GTX 670 FTW <- Poor overclocker :( 8GB (4x2GB) G.Skill DDR3 1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveOS
Samsung 830 Evo 128GB 2x 2TB  Some DVD drive OSX 10.10.4 
MonitorPowerCaseMouse
Asus 1080P Crap TX 750 HAF 922 G400s 
Mouse PadOther
Apple Keyboard Xbox One controler 
CPURAMHard DriveHard Drive
C2D 2,26GHz under volted @ .978v 8GB  Crucial M4 64GB SSD 500GB Scorpio Black 
OSMonitorKeyboardMouse
OS X 10.0 1280x800 Built-in Trackpad 
Audio
Built-in 
  hide details  
Reply
 
Gsvlip Dudyrm
(15 items)
 
Oda'maksv
(9 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
3770k @ 4.5 1.312 load Zotac Z77 ITX Wifi GTX 1070 Gaming 2126/2249 w/ Hybrid cooler TridentX 16GB 2400MHz 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
Samsung 850 Pro 1TB Seagate 2TB H105 EVGA Hybrid GPU cooler 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 10 Asus MG279Q - 24" 144Hz 1080p Filco Majestic II w/ Cherry Reds Seasonic X 760W 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Bitfelix Prodigy Logitech G400 Razer Goliath AKG A701 
AudioAudio
JDS Labs Objective 2 JDS Labs ODAC 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i5 750 3.99 (190x21) 1.376v Load ASUS P7P55d-E Pro GTX 670 FTW <- Poor overclocker :( 8GB (4x2GB) G.Skill DDR3 1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveOS
Samsung 830 Evo 128GB 2x 2TB  Some DVD drive OSX 10.10.4 
MonitorPowerCaseMouse
Asus 1080P Crap TX 750 HAF 922 G400s 
Mouse PadOther
Apple Keyboard Xbox One controler 
CPURAMHard DriveHard Drive
C2D 2,26GHz under volted @ .978v 8GB  Crucial M4 64GB SSD 500GB Scorpio Black 
OSMonitorKeyboardMouse
OS X 10.0 1280x800 Built-in Trackpad 
Audio
Built-in 
  hide details  
Reply
post #80 of 112
Quote:
Originally Posted by -Apocalypse- View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gnomepatrol View Post

People need to stop assuming everyone has a good internet connection. Hell, a connection at all. There are still areas in the United States where dial-up or possibly satellite is their only option. Not to mention the rest of the world where there may not be internet at all.

People need to stop assuming Microsoft doesn't know this and simply doesn't consider those people their target audience anymore.

"It's not for me and that makes me MAD!" is what a lot of the objections boil down to tbqh.

Did I say anything in regards to Microsoft? No, I was talking to people on OCN, whom I do not believe are Microsoft.
Gnomeon
(16 items)
 
GnomeBook Pro
(13 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Xeon E3-1245 V2 ASUS P8Z77-V SAPPHIRE TRI-X OC Radeon R9 290X 4GB  Crucial Ballistix Tactical 16GB DDR3 1866 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Crucial M550 256GB HGST Travelstar 7K1000 2.5-Inch 1TB 7200 RPM Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
BenQ XL2730Z Cooler Master Quickfire Pro Unbranded (Tenkeyless) SeaSonic SG12 550W Fractal Design Define S 
MouseAudioAudioOther
Mionix Avior Swan M10 Philips Fidelio X1 Audio-Technica ATR2500-USB 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7-2720QM Logic Board Intel HD Graphics 3000 and AMD 6750M 1gb Crucial 16GB 1333MHZ 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
750gb Hitachi 5400rpm 8x double-layer SuperDrive OS x 10.7.4 15.4" LED-backlit glossy widescreen display 144... 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Apple Keyboard Apple 85W MagSafe Power Adapter 2011 Unibody Magic Trackpad 
Audio
Built-in Stereo Speakers with Subwoofer 
  hide details  
Reply
Gnomeon
(16 items)
 
GnomeBook Pro
(13 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Xeon E3-1245 V2 ASUS P8Z77-V SAPPHIRE TRI-X OC Radeon R9 290X 4GB  Crucial Ballistix Tactical 16GB DDR3 1866 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Crucial M550 256GB HGST Travelstar 7K1000 2.5-Inch 1TB 7200 RPM Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
BenQ XL2730Z Cooler Master Quickfire Pro Unbranded (Tenkeyless) SeaSonic SG12 550W Fractal Design Define S 
MouseAudioAudioOther
Mionix Avior Swan M10 Philips Fidelio X1 Audio-Technica ATR2500-USB 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7-2720QM Logic Board Intel HD Graphics 3000 and AMD 6750M 1gb Crucial 16GB 1333MHZ 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
750gb Hitachi 5400rpm 8x double-layer SuperDrive OS x 10.7.4 15.4" LED-backlit glossy widescreen display 144... 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Apple Keyboard Apple 85W MagSafe Power Adapter 2011 Unibody Magic Trackpad 
Audio
Built-in Stereo Speakers with Subwoofer 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Video Game News
Overclock.net › Forums › Industry News › Video Game News › [Anandtech] Microsoft "hopes" developers will make games unplayable offline