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Poll Results: 660TI SLI or GTX 780 or keep my 570 SLI setup.

 
  • 20% (27)
    660TI SLI
  • 66% (88)
    GTX 780
  • 12% (17)
    Keep my 570 SLI setup
132 Total Votes  
post #41 of 132
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Originally Posted by d3subz View Post

blah blah ba blah blah..

Conclusion: This is just funny biggrin.gif 40min frames I get 60 in Crysis 3 maxed out lol, so u see that some games are just not that greatly optimized neither for single and especially not for multi gpu's and the problems are different.. with different bottlenecks either software or hardware but most likely it's the software ur trying to run. People will say go for single GPU.. ok I would agree to some degree but from my personal experience I think that both radeon and nvidia are getting better with drivers and it's usually the game designers and engine developers that aren't maxing it out. While most bug's are single or multi gpu related.. I admit there are some cases like BF3 that are just bad when it comes to SLI, but other then that I have not encountered any other 2012/2013 game that would be bad in SLI (I play Unreal Tournament (1999) works great and it's 15 years old, there are some talks about borderlands 2 but other then that.. the problems are mostly isolated + these 2 games suck anyway tongue.gif
TL/DR.. sleepysmileyanim.gif
post #42 of 132
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Originally Posted by tlbig10 View Post

...GPU usage is vacillating between 40 and 70%, and I'm dipping into the 50's and 60's with frames, yeah I'm going to blame poor scaling with SLI. And before you say I haven't tinkered with all the different v-sync types, or increase my detail settings to put more load on the GPU's, or any other ways to tweak BF3, you're mistaken. I quit enjoying BF3 multiplayer in order to figure this problem out and all my research pointed to poor scaling. (I even reformatted my system in an effort to cross every possibility off my list!)

If turning on adaptive v-sync or making sure you properly deleted your old video card drivers and are using the latest (which is the default answer you get) did in fact fix the problem, there wouldn't be this debate still.

Some games work great with SLI, others don't. I think everyone can agree to that.

Agree 100% with above.

BF3 is my favorite online shooter and it has very poor SLI scaling. I bought GRID 2 and that has VERY POOR SLI scaling. Yes, Crysis 2 has great scaling, but it's a piss poor game. The new Tomb Raider also has great scaling, but thats a 10hr SP game.

I need SLI to scale at least 80% consistently in the games I play most and that wasn't happening.

TL;DR: Get a 780 and play it safe...unless you KNOW for sure you won't be playing anything in the future whatsoever (since you can't predict SLI scalability). Also, you can't play BF3 or GRID 2...scratch those off your li..lis...list...excuse my stutter. tongue.gif
Edited by Jodiuh - 6/7/13 at 2:45pm
post #43 of 132
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Originally Posted by Jodiuh View Post

Agree 100% with above.

BF3 is my favorite online shooter and it has very poor SLI scaling. I bought GRID 2 and that has VERY POOR SLI scaling. Yes, Crysis 2 has great scaling, but it's a piss poor game. The new Tomb Raider also has great scaling, but thats a 10hr SP game.

I need SLI to scale at least 80% consistently in the games I play most and that wasn't happening.

TL;DR: Get a 780 and play it safe...unless you KNOW for sure you won't be playing anything in the future whatsoever (since you can't predict SLI scalability). Also, you can't play BF3 or GRID 2...scratch those off your li..lis...list...excuse my stutter. tongue.gif

I agree that there are SLI issues.. with some games and like I said.. it sucks when it's ur favorite game..but game/engine designers are more and more aware of SLI popularity.. and I doubt we will see less support in the future.. it can only get better with time. It's good now it's gonna be great in the future.. so saying things like "unless you KNOW for sure you won't be playing anything in the future whatsoever" is a bit to much.. that's why I hate u single gpu lovers.. u piss on smthing that has little or no issues just based off one experience or a nother it's like saying "don't use condoms it's only 99.8% safe". I don't play bf3 and keep extra 200-500$ in my pocket for the same performance in the 99% of other games that weren't made with low skilled optimization. Nvidia can release NASA STARTREK STARWARS TITAN GTX SUPER EXTREME but if you can't write the code for it or is gazilion euro's.. it's useless to have one.

It comes down to personal preference if ur like me.. on a tight budget and want to squeeze every penny to it's highest potential, don't care about 3d, don't care about 16 monitors and over 1080p res., then.. you would say good bye 780 cuz my two 660ti's are still with the titan.. less money, more power and if ur not convinced unlock the vbios, tweak the kepler and u get two 670. Until volta gen. gpu's come around ur safe.
Edited by d3subz - 6/7/13 at 3:41pm
post #44 of 132
Just my $0.02, but I really don't undersand the BF3 issues. I'm running 2 670 FTWs on a 120hz monitor and ultra everything max AA, in game Vsync off, Adaptive Vsync on and I'm capped at 120 FPS in 64 multiplayer any map. Occasionally may drop to at lowest 90 FPS during tons of action.
post #45 of 132
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Originally Posted by knuck3ls View Post

Just my $0.02, but I really don't undersand the BF3 issues. I'm running 2 670 FTWs on a 120hz monitor and ultra everything max AA, in game Vsync off, Adaptive Vsync on and I'm capped at 120 FPS in 64 multiplayer any map. Occasionally may drop to at lowest 90 FPS during tons of action.

This man is living proof if I'd actually care about bf3 (which I don't). I would get those frames as well.. like I said.. u people are just to lazy to tweak you're SLI and judge off one map or isolated incident.

Edit: And I got his frames now, ty sir!
Edited by d3subz - 6/7/13 at 4:36pm
post #46 of 132
i would get a 780 if i were you i might beg my wife to let me buy one haha biggrin.gif
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post #47 of 132
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like I said.. u people are just to lazy to tweak you're SLI and judge off one map or isolated incident.

That's not very constructive criticism. Go educate yourself and click the links I posted above. In BF3, SLI scaling did depend on the map - majority were fine, but Karkland maps and Caspian were bad, and when it's a 1000 tick server, having that "isolated incident" could mean stuttering on a map for a very long time and when you game with real life friends like I do, it's not very polite to make everyone switch to a different server because your system isn't very smooth. It's there and it's real and it really depends on if it bothers you that much. Don't even get me started on Borderlands 2 and SLI...
post #48 of 132
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Originally Posted by tlbig10 View Post

That's not very constructive criticism. Go educate yourself and click the links I posted above. In BF3, SLI scaling did depend on the map - majority were fine, but Karkland maps and Caspian were bad, and when it's a 1000 tick server, having that "isolated incident" could mean stuttering on a map for a very long time and when you game with real life friends like I do, it's not very polite to make everyone switch to a different server because your system isn't very smooth. It's there and it's real and it really depends on if it bothers you that much. Don't even get me started on Borderlands 2 and SLI...

Two post back I tested BF3 maxed out I wrote a novel on ur so called "constructive criticism" with max AA's I had min frames of 40.. because of 4x MSAA I downed it to 2x MSAA now I have at least 100-120 avrage or more with v-sync off and if u read my first post on this thread on stuttering and tearing.. everything is there what to do to fix ur SLI setup. I'm sory.. I don't have problems with bf3 I think u need to educate urself, I have 0 issues with games on my SLI setup, great scaling when applied correctly and obviously 0 with bf3 since 5min ago and I don't even play the game! I now have around 95% more or less gpu usage on both cards.. and if u can see the dif. between 4xMSAA on 1080p and 2xMSAA on 1080p then u must be god.

And if any of you want to blame SLI for the crappy performance on individual maps just because u need to run you're favorite game on max settings (4xMSAA instead of 2XMSAA or smthing lower) in bf3 because the game is total and utter low skill of design.. single or multi gpu core.. I think u seriously need to educate urself. Because this is no longer a SLI issue it's a game/map design/software issue.. go cry to the bf3 forum.
Edited by d3subz - 6/7/13 at 4:55pm
post #49 of 132
I had to break down your "novel" onto a piece of paper and draw connecting lines to phrases to try and make sense of that brain dump. After re-reading it again, you do realize you're backing up what we're saying, right?
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Originally Posted by d3subz 
min max usage of both cards 55-75% while moving

Welcome to poorly coded for SLI BF3. I've never said the hardware side of SLI was to blame if that's what you think. I'm happy you only play games that are SLI friendly. That's awesome. Me and my FPS multiplayer games need all the smoothness and input-lag free controls we can get.

Anyways, my 780 ACX arrived today and I'll let you know what my GPU usage is.
post #50 of 132
Well, maybe I just don't know how to use computers. Anyway...

660 SLI vs 780

BF3 is now up from 40 to 60 minimum, feels quite a bit smoother, and GRID 2's game ending stutter is gone. GRID 2 went from 50% usage to 98% usage.

I'm glad SLI works for some of you, it didn't for me.
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