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That screenshot is utterly wrong, everyone says those things OC like beasts, just wanted to confirm.

and thanks Collin.

I'm just stating what i found tongue.gif

There is no exact way of knowing what OC you'll get anyway, its all about chip lottery. alatar's new 3930K can do 5GHZ at something like 1.4V, whereas my friend's one fails to boot at 4.7GHZ at 1.4V. its all about luck, and lets hope you have what it takes to reach nice oc's with low temps and low voltages tongue.gif
 
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Yup, Im want to kick HOMECINEMA off the 3820 Podium!!!
     
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seems most people get OC Via The Block after certain multiplier
http://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/stephen-dougherty/intels-entry-level-sandy-e-i7-3820-hits-5-66ghz/

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That screenshot is utterly wrong, everyone says those things OC like beasts, just wanted to confirm.

and thanks Collin.

I'm just stating what i found tongue.gif

There is no exact way of knowing what OC you'll get anyway, its all about chip lottery. alatar's new 3930K can do 5GHZ at something like 1.4V, whereas my friend's one fails to boot at 4.7GHZ at 1.4V. its all about luck, and lets hope you have what it takes to reach nice oc's with low temps and low voltages tongue.gif
You think that's bad? Mine fails at 1.52 and 4.5! (P95)
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I suggest that you don't use the BCLK Strap (especially the 150mhz one). If you use another strap than 100mhz, your CPU won't idle correctly if you decide to use the power saving features (such as C1E and EIST (Enhance Intel Speedstep Technology))

No problem running RAM over 1.7v


Rampage IV Extreme UEFI Guide for Overclocking

CPU Core Voltage Offset Mode Overclocking




CPU Clock Gen Filter: A setting of Auto is recommened for most overclocking. For memory speeds over DDR3-2200 use 10UF, for speeds over DDR3-2400 use 20UF. If using the 166 strap then a setting of Disabled is recommended

Rampage Tweak: A setting of Mode 2 is recommended for overclocking memory over DDR3-2000 or if using 64GB of memory

tRWDR: Sets the delay period between a read command that is followed by a write command; where the write command requires the access of data from a different rank. A setting of 3 clocks suits most DIMM configurations all the way to DDR3-2133. Relax to 5~7 clocks only if you are experiencing stability issues when running in excess of 8GB of memory over DDR3-2300.

tRWDD: Sets the delay period between a read command that is followed by a write command; where the write command requires the access of data from a different rank or DIMM. A setting of 3 clocks suits most DIMM configurations all the way to DDR3-2133. Relax to 5~7 clocks only if you are experiencing stability issues when running in excess of 8GB of memory over DDR3-2300.

Receiver Slew: Leave on Auto for most overclocking. Try a setting of Normal if experiencing instability when running memory over DDR3-2133.

Transmitter Slew: Leave on Auto for most overclocking. Try a setting of Normal if experiencing instability when running memory over DDR3-2133.

MCH Recheck: Forces memory to be rechecked to ensure all DIMMs are mapped. Leave on Auto unless experiencing instability.

RC Warm Boot Fast: Disables memory training when Enabled. If running at speeds over DDR3-2133, then Enable this setting once the memory is stable. Drift in memory training parameters may result in instability if this setting is left enabled and the system is booted multiple times or during sub-zero cooled benchmarking sessions. For all other purposes leave on Auto or Disabled.

VCCSA Current Capability: Increases the power threshold before over-current protection limits power. Increase to 140% if running 64GB of memory or if running memory speeds in excess of DDR3-2133.

DRAM-AB/CD Current Capability: Increases the power threshold before over-current protection limits power. Increase to 130% if using 64GB of memory past DDR3-1866, or when running 8GB modules over DDR3-2133.

CPU VCCSA Voltage: Two options here. The first is “Manual Mode”, which allows us to set a ‘static’ level of voltage for the System Agent. The second mode is “Offset Mode”, which works on the same principals as Vcore Offset Mode. VCCSA has a direct impact on memory stability, so will need increasing if you are running high density modules and/or overclocking the memory controller. As a general rule VCCSA should not be set higher than CPU Vcore as this will impact system stability. The reason for this is likely due to processor Vcore being used as either a pull-up rail for IO signaling stages, or internal DC coupling.

If overclocking past DDR3-2000, then finding the optimal delta between CPU vcore and VCCSA becomes critical with some memory modules. Hence, we recommend making small changes and monitoring for impact upon stability. It is probably wise not to exceed a voltage delta larger than 0.6V between VDIMM and VCCSA, so if VDIMM is set to 1.65V, then set VCCSA at around 1.05V minimum as a starting point AND also try to keep VCCSA within 0.3V of Vcore if possible.

CPU PLL Voltage: For most overclocking, the minimum voltage requirements will be centered around 1.80V. If using higher processor multiplier ratios or DRAM frequencies over DDR3 2200, then a small over-voltage here can aid stability.

You can also bump DRAM Voltage (CHA, CHB & CHC, CHD): Sets DRAM voltage for the memory. Set according to memory vendor specifications or alter to facilitate over/underclocking


CPU & PCIe Spread Spectrum: Disable if overclocking as clock modulation can cause instability.
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It is a 3820, multi only goes to 43, so I have to
     
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Oh right,

37 x 125 mhz = 4625mhz would be a perfect OC 24/7.

The rest of the info I posted will be useful when you OC the CPU.
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I ordered all my parts yesterday, and they will arrive sometime next week. I got a few questions regarding my Sig Rig...

-If I go over the 37x Multiplier, does it apply to all cores or just some?
-How often does a 3820 work with a 150+ Boot Strap?
-Does the boot strap also affect RAM?
-Any problems in running over 1.5v RAM (ie small voltage bump)?
-Will 1/4 of a tube of MX-4 be enough for both my CPU and 2x GPU's?
-Will my GPU/CPU block come with some thermal paste?
-How often does a 3820 get to 4.9+ on good vCore?

I dont want you to answer them all if you can, just answer some if you wish smile.gif

  • Actually you have two options; 1) set how many cores (e.g. 4 or 2 or 1) you want to run at certain Turbo frequencies, 2) apply multiplier to all cores.
  • SB-E has 4 straps; 100, 125, 166, 250 (ratio 1:1, 1:1.25, 1:1.66, 1:2.5 respectively). Most CPUs can do STRAP 125 but less CPU can do STRAP 166. You don't need STRAP 166 or higher anyway.
  • STRAP allow wide range default operating frequencies. For example, with STRAP 125, you can run RAM at 1666 or 2000 frequency (given that your RAM capable to run at that frequency & good quality IMC).
  • No problem. You can run up to 1.65V. I don't recommend running higher voltage than that.
    NOTE:-
    The difference between VDIMM and VCCSA should not larger than 0.6V. For example, if VDIMM is set to 1.65V, then set VCCSA at around 1.05V. The difference between VCCSA & VCORE is within 0.3V if possible.
  • I would get two 3G/5G of TIM just in case I need them. First application is to see whether it spread properly. It allow me to know the proper amount I should use. One 3G tube should be enough for the CPU alone. For CPU & GPU, get two tube.
  • Some blocks come with pre-applied TIM but there are other blocks that didn't come with one. All-in-one water cooler usually come with TIM pre-applied.
  • Depend on your silicon lottery.

BTW, if you use MX-4, please share your idle & load temp. For load, I mean when running Intel Burn Test or Prime95 at 4.5/4.6GHz. I tried a couple of TIMs before & MX-4 was one of it. I don't like the result when using MX-4. If your temp is good, probably I can re-consider using MX-4 in the future. I still have 4 1/2 tube of MX-4, 3 of them still unused. Based on the previous experience, I always use Shin-Etsu G751. Even when I changed to custom water cooling earlier this month, I also use Shin-Etsu G751.
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Don't use 150, stick with 125 as your strap.
 
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Originally Posted by Ramsey77 View Post

Don't use 150, stick with 125 as your strap.

Any reo why not? I would like to remain under 36x multi for 24/7, but im aiming for 4.8-5.0GHz. So I will need the CPu Strapp to be in the 140 area. Any comments on this? And I want it under 36x because I want some power saving stuff on. Any comments on my plan?
     
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