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Sorry, let me clear up a few things.

1. When I was researching this mouse I saw a lot of complaints about the scroll wheel, after getting mine I feel like the complaints were unfounded. The wheel is noticeably heavier than something like the Deathadder (sorry I cannot compare to the Intellimouse because I have not owned one of those in forever) but by no means is it unusable. It just takes a little more effort to scroll when browsing the net, and at the end of the day, I bought this mouse for gaming. I wouldn't worry so much about it. Basically every mouse on the market has at least a single flaw and compared to what those flaws usually are I find this to be very minor.

2. The EC2 is just a smaller version of the same mouse. If you like the Deathadder/G700 size, get the EC1.

3. No, no...I was talking about the G700 in that post. The sidebuttons on the EC1 are just fine, but they feel a bit different than the Deathadder's, but you quickly adapt. If I had to describe it, the DA has really clicky sidebuttons where as the EC1 has softer sidebuttons, but not cheap-mushy like the G700. Your thumb can absolutely rest comfortably with no chance of hitting the buttons without purposefully meaning to. They do not get in the way.

Personally, I don't consider the scroll wheel to be a deal breaker, though it is noisy when you scroll the wheel really fast trying to get to the bottom of a long webpage (due to the notchiness).

Also, the mouse comes with a spare set of mousefeet, which is always a nice bonus.

Awesome, thanks for clearing that up for me.

To the best of your knowledge, is the EC1 still in production?

I saw this post on ebay and it says "no longer in production" in the description. I also noticed on the boxart that the mouse has DPI settings of 500, 1000, and 2000; though on the Zowie website, it says that (for the EC1), the DPI settings are 125, 500, and 1000. Interesting. I'm guessing that the one on ebay is an older version of the EC1?

Also, I was wondering if you could shed some light on something else for me. I was looking at some of Zowie's other offerings and both the FK and the AM look interesting to me as well. I am coming from an ambidextrous IntelliMouse, so that's why the FK and AM are attractive (but, I also really like the look of the EC1 because I liked the DeathAdder).

That said, in the description of the FK, it says this:
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The FK is similar to the AM in terms of specifications and features, and they are both ambidextrous mice developed for gamers who prefer a claw-grip play style, but that is where the similarities end.

The FK is an ambidextrous mouse with a \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\/ grip, contrary to the AM that has a /\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ gripping style. The design of the FK has changed slightly compared to the AM, amongst other minor adjustments, the height is lower. The adjustments to the overall design have been made to make the FK lighter and faster. We hope that the design makes it more comfortable to use, not only for gamers who prefer the claw-grip, but also for gamers with smaller hands who prefer to palm-grip their mouse.

Are "\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\/" and "/\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\" supposed to be ASCII representations of a grip style, or is that some kind of text error? Could you perhaps explain the difference between the FK and the AM for me if you understand it?

Either way, thanks for all of the help. It looks like I may just end up with a mouse that's right for me, after all.
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At the end of the day its all about preference, I had both Mamba and G700 I kept the G700 and sold the Mamba for like $5 loss. Though right now I am looking at the G400S.
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For sure. That said, I think I can safely say that I will be steering clear of Logitech unless they change directions. They really seem to be going down the road of major marketing hype. It's a damn shame that they had some of the most coveted mice (G5, G500, and MX 518) and completely destroyed them with the next iterations. What the hell are they thinking?

I wish I could sit in on their focus group meetings and listen to the reasons thrown around that justify why this or that is a good idea. Their mouse product manager is a member here on OCN; I would be very interested to hear his take on what has happened with Logitech over the years, and why their glory days seem to be behind them (as far as mice go).

More than that, I wish I could get my hands on a brand new G5 or MX 518 without paying an inordinate amount of money. So many people loved those mice, but Logitech changed them for the sake of change and to make them more appealing to the "gamer". In actuality, they've done the opposite by decreasing the quality so much. I really wish I had got a G5 back in the day; I'll probably never know how awesome it was.

Now, I feel lost trying to sift through all of the bull**** marketing jargon that is being thrown around left and right by virtually every company. It's almost as bad (if not worse) than all of the crap that television manufactures pull like ridiculous 1,000,000:1 contrast ratios (which are completely unrealistic during normal use, btw). The closest I've come to finding a company that is seemingly concerned with producing a legit gaming mouse is Zowie with their EC1/EC2. But even it is not without its flaws.

I wish someone would start up a kickstarter and make an actually good, simple gaming mouse with a high build quality and reasonable price. Although, it probably wouldn't be successful in this over-saturated market.

I just want a good mouse. I'm willing to pay for it. Why can't I get it?
Edited by lukeman3000 - 5/25/13 at 8:44am
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Awesome, thanks for clearing that up for me.

To the best of your knowledge, is the EC1 still in production?

I saw this post on ebay and it says "no longer in production" in the description. I also noticed on the boxart that the mouse has DPI settings of 500, 1000, and 2000; though on the Zowie website, it says that (for the EC1), the DPI settings are 125, 500, and 1000. Interesting. I'm guessing that the one on ebay is an older version of the EC1?

Also, I was wondering if you could shed some light on something else for me. I was looking at some of Zowie's other offerings and both the FK and the AM look interesting to me as well. I am coming from an ambidextrous IntelliMouse, so that's why the FK and AM are attractive (but, I also really like the look of the EC1 because I liked the DeathAdder).

That said, in the description of the FK, it says this:
Are "\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\/" and "/\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\" supposed to be ASCII representations of a grip style, or is that some kind of text error? Could you perhaps explain the difference between the FK and the AM for me if you understand it?

Either way, thanks for all of the help. It looks like I may just end up with a mouse that's right for me, after all.

The EC1 is no longer produced, because Zowie came out with the EC1 eVo. Definitely don't buy the EC1, it had a lot of problems so I hear. So yeah, that is the old one you linked to.

I think they are supposed to be representations of mouse shape, but I don't know how to interpret it... Sorry, I'm not familiar enough with the FK to compare it to the AM. I remember reading a post by one guy who came from the WMO/Intellimouse and said that he felt like Zowie made a mouse (the AM) that looked like the Intellimouse and then packaged it up without ever using it themselves. So maybe that's where the similarities end for those two mice.

The shape on the right side of the EC1 eVo curves outward slightly like ) whereas the Deathadder curves in on the right side like (. Felt a little odd at first since I was used to the Deathadder shape for years, but I came to like the outward curve on the eVo and now my pinky doesn't ever feel any pain from long sessions (I would palm the entire mouse, but since it curved inward on the right, my pinky went into a claw grip style just to hold onto the mouse).
Edited by Remmib - 5/25/13 at 12:28pm
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