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LOL no. you can get a similar experience buy running your fav Linux distro on a store bought windows laptop. desktops? are you kidding me? youll pay a lot more for even less hardware. you can easily build a great gaming pc and run Linux and still have a better experience and save over $1000 on your purchase. waste of money to me. apple products to me feel cheap and chintzy, and after opening up my 30 gig video ipod and seeing foxconn on the wiring and connectors....disgusted I am!
 
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LOL no. you can get a similar experience buy running your fav Linux distro on a store bought windows laptop. !
So can I run Adobe, Autodesk Suite, audio rendering/processing and video processing software on lunix?
Can I have just as easy to use audio and video pass-though that comes direct from the video and audio cards not stream capture?
Can I do all of this on one OS without switching between em or using VMs?
Edited by ivr56 - 5/25/13 at 1:38pm
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LOL no. you can get a similar experience buy running your fav Linux distro on a store bought windows laptop. desktops? are you kidding me? youll pay a lot more for even less hardware. you can easily build a great gaming pc and run Linux and still have a better experience and save over $1000 on your purchase. waste of money to me. apple products to me feel cheap and chintzy, and after opening up my 30 gig video ipod and seeing foxconn on the wiring and connectors....disgusted I am!

Go troll elsewhere.

Were you disgusted when you found out that your motherboard's socket also has Foxconn written on it?
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chip, calling me a troll is silly, its a fact Linux distros are better the osx :/. clearly the OP feels macs are overrated too. and no the socket on my mainboard does NOT say foxconn. it says gigabyte.
 
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LOL no. you can get a similar experience buy running your fav Linux distro on a store bought windows laptop. desktops? are you kidding me? youll pay a lot more for even less hardware. you can easily build a great gaming pc and run Linux and still have a better experience and save over $1000 on your purchase. waste of money to me. apple products to me feel cheap and chintzy, and after opening up my 30 gig video ipod and seeing foxconn on the wiring and connectors....disgusted I am!

 

 

You cannot be serious about the build quality; their laptops are great.

And what's wrong with foxconn?

 

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I have to say connecting a Macbook Pro to a tv via HDMI adapter is a huge pain in the butt. This is a new model bought for my daughter about 3 months ago and the adapter is apple original.

Every single time I connect it to her tv (a Samsung 1080P 46", relatively new) I have to spend time reconfiguring the resolution. Sometimes it does not work at all and requires a log off log on. It is not the adapter as I bought her another one just to be sure.

Even better is that the audio does not work plug and play. Again, every single time I connect it (and this is the only tv is has ever been connected to), I have to go in to the audio settings and make a checklist of changes, log off, and then log back in for it to work. If you disconnect the laptop or heaven forbid shut it, you have to go through the process again.

I even thought there was an issue with the laptop itself but I also bought my wife another Macbook Pro and it has the exact same issues.

The only way I figured out how to fix the audio was to go into the mac forums (where apparently this is a common issue).

I have hooked up over a dozen windows based laptops to tv's and have two media centre pc's in my house running windows. Every single one of them has been plug and play every single time.


For that alone, I would steer clear of a Mac.

Add in the formatting incompatibilities between external drives with windows and mac and the exorbitant price (my daughter's laptop cost $400 more than my Asus Ultrabook and frankly my laptop eats hers for breakfast in every category and matches in battery life + 2 year warranty first year covers drops!), I would not recommend a Mac voluntarily to anyone.

Set aside the counter intuitive nature of the OS (that is supposed to be oh so user friendly), it is simply an experience I have no interest in using for myself.

And this from a guy with 3 Iphones and 3 ipad in our house thumb.gif
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this debate could go on for years i swear the quality build can be at fault with any product . Also in my opinion Macs are mainly for video/Photography mainly but can be used as everyday machine although they may not been as widely supported as windows in general. macs i feel are odd to use if you used windows most your life but i feel there just easy to use as linux and some what faster then higher spec windows laptop/machines on the market at points in there development.
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You cannot be serious about the build quality; their laptops are great.


And what's wrong with foxconn?


 

I'd have to disagree on that. I see a lot more broken Mac's than I do PC notebooks, not to mention that Unibody is a royal pain to get into and repair. Also, and I know I'm not really hurting them, but I go far out of my way to not buy anything that is made by foxconn, heck, I try not to buy anything made in China, but sometimes there isn't any way around that. That's part of the reason I advocate Zotac and PC Partner products, they actually have a high work condition quality standard in their factories http://www.bjorn3d.com/2011/06/zotac-factory-tour-in-dongguan/#.UaFR5UC1G1U
I also refuse to buy anything Apple due to their business practices such as, Patent Trolling, hardware locks and blatant price gouging.

/End Anti-Apple/foxconn rant

Anything you can do on a Mac, you can do on a PC, better and at a lesser cost. Even the music argument isn't valid anymore, as Windows has plenty of excellent DAW's that work wonderfully. Also, as far as the Simplicity goes, Windows as of late isn't very difficult. Most everything nowadays has been dumbed down significantly, however, you can get further simplification if you use Certain linux distro's like Ubuntu or Pear OS (which might I add does an ASTOUNDING job replicating the Mac U.I.), and not to mention they're FREE!!!

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I have to say connecting a Macbook Pro to a tv via HDMI adapter is a huge pain in the butt. This is a new model bought for my daughter about 3 months ago and the adapter is apple original.

Every single time I connect it to her tv (a Samsung 1080P 46", relatively new) I have to spend time reconfiguring the resolution. Sometimes it does not work at all and requires a log off log on. It is not the adapter as I bought her another one just to be sure.

Even better is that the audio does not work plug and play. Again, every single time I connect it (and this is the only tv is has ever been connected to), I have to go in to the audio settings and make a checklist of changes, log off, and then log back in for it to work. If you disconnect the laptop or heaven forbid shut it, you have to go through the process again.

I even thought there was an issue with the laptop itself but I also bought my wife another Macbook Pro and it has the exact same issues.

The only way I figured out how to fix the audio was to go into the mac forums (where apparently this is a common issue).

I have hooked up over a dozen windows based laptops to tv's and have two media centre pc's in my house running windows. Every single one of them has been plug and play every single time.


For that alone, I would steer clear of a Mac.

Add in the formatting incompatibilities between external drives with windows and mac and the exorbitant price (my daughter's laptop cost $400 more than my Asus Ultrabook and frankly my laptop eats hers for breakfast in every category and matches in battery life + 2 year warranty first year covers drops!), I would not recommend a Mac voluntarily to anyone.

Set aside the counter intuitive nature of the OS (that is supposed to be oh so user friendly), it is simply an experience I have no interest in using for myself.

And this from a guy with 3 Iphones and 3 ipad in our house thumb.gif

Actually had a similar problem with a Samsung monitor!

I wonder why! rolleyes.gif
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As a counterpoint, Xcode is only if you want to develop for iOS.

Almost every engineering (CATIA, Soldiworks, Creo) or math program (MATLAB / Mathcad / etc) does not go on OS X. There are ports of Mathematica and LabVIEW though.

If you want to develop for Android, then Linux is another option.

The way I see it, OS X is for people that need to produce media : Audio / Video

Actually, you can code in C/C++ and other languages with Xcode and use other IDEs for any other language. The most common IDE for Java and Android apps, Eclipse, is available on Macs.
You can run Eclipse and develop Android apps with that or Google's new IDE, Android Studio. Many if not the majority of Google employees use Macs for development and they are the top choice among developers, web designers, and image professionals, not just audio and video people.

Mathematica, MATLAB, and AutoCAD do in fact have native OS X versions although there are probably some engineering tools not available. Many connect to a virtual server anyway for the really expensive engineering tools.
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