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I don't get what is so speacial in them. Every program you have on mac has a counterpart on windows which is the same exact program or an even better one.

Speaking with any of Apple-owning friends of mine, nobody can give any special great features on apple devices. Their arguments are like "You can pull down the notification window on your iPhone". Yeah, ever heard of android which did it way before apple and is even customizable?

Running AE+Premiere+3dsMax at the same time on my windows computer is far from being a pain in the ass. I'd rather alt-tab in a millisecond than look for a trackpad and then swipe with right amount of fingers to move to another program. Oh, the dock? You know, rocketdock and others have been around for years. Try to get any other GUI to Apple - near impossible.

EDIT: Not even mentioning price, starbucks or outdated hardware.

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P.S. your talking about iToys and not Mac's

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yes there are compatibility issues even with full on macs, i learned about this while doing hackintosh research some hackintosh stuff is used to get officially supported macs going again, with certina upgrades or side grades.

they also dropped 32 bit support recent along with PPC support, software support isn't so good either. there are some important PPC programs you can't run any more.
are you saying iOS apps run on OSX?

On thing i like about Macs even the really old ones is they always supported crazy amounts of ram, even the ones that used SD133.

32bit support dropped with 10.8 and Power support with 10.6..Apple will cut off support for your machine there is no doubt. This keeps them progressing, but I do ding them for it.

As a general rule apple generally breaks most RAM ceilings..That partly because of the way they address RAM (PAE).
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Well... there is your problem: hack. Apple built systems don't use stock equipment, they do fiddly stuff with the drivers. GPU's are a case in point, until just recently, you had to have custom BIOS's made to make other GPU's to work, its no surprise that you had issues. Use equipment that is officially supported/certified by Apple, on Apple built systems, you won't have those issues.

We flashed them with already existing ROM's. There are a few out there that do write more complete ROM's NETKAS but there still had to be OS support until recently. Nvidia wrote drivers independent of OSX and gives a basic panel to choose which driver and install auto updates and the like. For example we have 780 and Titan support right now.
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Love that my wife has an iMac, she can dual boot when she needs windows, and is pretty fool proof in the OSX when she's just doing most normal stuff.

They serve a purpose, doesn't take up much room, and they are pretty reliable.

Having said that, I wouldn't ever want one.
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I personally own a Mid 2012 15'' Retina, and I can't really say a bad thing about it, using Windows 7 via Bootcamp, it's just a great working station, and even on Windows I can play pretty much any game on it, why did I buy it ? Due to my university forcing me to buy a Mac mostly, but honestly I am far from being disappointed, this thing boots up in 5 seconds, I've never had a single problem on it (dll, compatibility, etc.), I'm used to truly customize my windows and it's something I miss a bit on Mac also it's already extremely pleasant to work on. The other good thing is that I truly have 7 hours of battery unlike some other brands claiming the same, it's not about the system to me, it's about the weigh, the design and what you get from your money, especially the build quality.
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Apple actually care about their display quality.
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Yep, but they have this truly annoying tendency to make them glossy, that is precisely why I would never the ACD.
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Compared to similarly priced competitors, nothing really other than screen resolution and battery life. Personally I think they feel more solid compared to it's competitors (due to it being made of aluminium instead of plastic, which is also why they usually cost more, aluminium is ~$1873.40 per metric ton and plastic (that is used for laptops) is ~$176.32 per metric ton) and the trackpad on the Mac laptops are better than it's competitors.

If you are thinking about getting a Mac Pro or iMac, I would say don't. Especially for the Mac Pro. You would be far better off just making another Hackintosh built into a Mac Pro case if you can get one (spares and repairs sections of used computer things is the best place to get them). If you just want a good looking desktop AIO then get an iMac.
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I'd have to disagree on that. I see a lot more broken Mac's than I do PC notebooks, not to mention that Unibody is a royal pain to get into and repair. Also, and I know I'm not really hurting them, but I go far out of my way to not buy anything that is made by foxconn, heck, I try not to buy anything made in China, but sometimes there isn't any way around that. That's part of the reason I advocate Zotac and PC Partner products, they actually have a high work condition quality standard in their factories http://www.bjorn3d.com/2011/06/zotac-factory-tour-in-dongguan/#.UaFR5UC1G1U
I also refuse to buy anything Apple due to their business practices such as, Patent Trolling, hardware locks and blatant price gouging.

/End Anti-Apple/foxconn rant

Anything you can do on a Mac, you can do on a PC, better and at a lesser cost. Even the music argument isn't valid anymore, as Windows has plenty of excellent DAW's that work wonderfully. Also, as far as the Simplicity goes, Windows as of late isn't very difficult. Most everything nowadays has been dumbed down significantly, however, you can get further simplification if you use Certain linux distro's like Ubuntu or Pear OS (which might I add does an ASTOUNDING job replicating the Mac U.I.), and not to mention they're FREE!!!

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EDIT: Are there seriously people in this thread trying to say Ivy Bridge, Kepler and SSDs with a read/write speed of 420MBps/380MBps is outdated?
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I have to say connecting a Macbook Pro to a tv via HDMI adapter is a huge pain in the butt. This is a new model bought for my daughter about 3 months ago and the adapter is apple original.

Every single time I connect it to her tv (a Samsung 1080P 46", relatively new) I have to spend time reconfiguring the resolution. Sometimes it does not work at all and requires a log off log on. It is not the adapter as I bought her another one just to be sure.

Even better is that the audio does not work plug and play. Again, every single time I connect it (and this is the only tv is has ever been connected to), I have to go in to the audio settings and make a checklist of changes, log off, and then log back in for it to work. If you disconnect the laptop or heaven forbid shut it, you have to go through the process again.

I even thought there was an issue with the laptop itself but I also bought my wife another Macbook Pro and it has the exact same issues.

The only way I figured out how to fix the audio was to go into the mac forums (where apparently this is a common issue).

I have hooked up over a dozen windows based laptops to tv's and have two media centre pc's in my house running windows. Every single one of them has been plug and play every single time.


For that alone, I would steer clear of a Mac.

Add in the formatting incompatibilities between external drives with windows and mac and the exorbitant price (my daughter's laptop cost $400 more than my Asus Ultrabook and frankly my laptop eats hers for breakfast in every category and matches in battery life + 2 year warranty first year covers drops!), I would not recommend a Mac voluntarily to anyone.

Set aside the counter intuitive nature of the OS (that is supposed to be oh so user friendly), it is simply an experience I have no interest in using for myself.

And this from a guy with 3 Iphones and 3 ipad in our house thumb.gif


Odd, I have a Sammy UED5000, when connecting the display settings were good out of the box. I only had to select the tv's speakers as output device, but after that I was set.
Now anytime I connect it again the same settings are applied automatically. This worked just as well on my MBP '17 from 2009, as well as my mid 2012 '15 one, both running 10.8.

As for external drives, you could just use exFAT for anything other than your TimeMachine backup
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Another cool thing about mac, is most programs are very low in storage size, not sure if its due to the limited difference in hardware, but its nice that a full 10.8.3 install is less than 10gigs. Thats why the first macbooks with SSD's with what some Windows people might see as very little storage space, is quite adiquate.

On my system, my 120gig SSD is only using 60gigs, and thats with game installs, programs, basically everything except my music, photo, and movie files which I keep on a dedicated media server.
I know there is NO way you can get the amount of Programs I have with the OS on a windows machine with in the same storage amount.

and for the power users, somethings I find better/easier to do in OSX than windows
- drive management, much quicker, faster, easier, when i'm formatting a HD or the like, I do it in OSX
also, you can go to your hard drive, and it will tell you how much space is being used by music, pictures, movies, apps, etc.
- Every single app that I've installed has always been the same formula, which makes things easy, familiar.
- no need to uninstall anything. Simply drag the app to the trash, and done.
- Most linux commands work in OSX
- System settings/control center is much easier and better laid out than Windows

Those are just a few things I find better in OSX than Win.

And to the guy who asked about if you can use ios apps on osx, for the most part, no, what I meant by that was how if you take a photo on your iphone, it will atomatically be on your mac, how you can control your mac with your phone, etc, without the need for any 3rd party apps, etc.
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This thread should be locked.

You people are meant to be "tech people" and you hate on OSX / Mac.

Your reasoning's for "just as good" doesn't work in the industry now does it? I've worked in the industry, they all use mac's. Not windows because its just as good. They pay to get stuff done right.

Whether or not they could get an Ivy bridge cpu and overclock it to 9.5 bajilloion ghz and a gtx titan in sli with 74 ssd's with 192gb ram is out of the question.

^ obvs not srs.

They are there to get the job done, the job is done right with mac's. They have been for years in graphic design.

I'm not even going to sit here and defend Mac / OSX because you are all obviously stubborn and extremely ignorant to the fact that people can have their own opinions on products.

pfft being "tech people", I'd think you'd understand but I guess OCN isn't just what it use to be, people just seemingly get more stupid by the month.
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P.S. your talking about iToys and not Mac's
32bit support dropped with 10.8 and Power support with 10.6..Apple will cut off support for your machine there is no doubt. This keeps them progressing, but I do ding them for it.

As a general rule apple generally breaks most RAM ceilings..That partly because of the way they address RAM (PAE).
We flashed them with already existing ROM's. There are a few out there that do write more complete ROM's NETKAS but there still had to be OS support until recently. Nvidia wrote drivers independent of OSX and gives a basic panel to choose which driver and install auto updates and the like. For example we have 780 and Titan support right now.


No, PPC was dropped in 10.7 but, yeah thanks for backing me up there.
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