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Originally Posted by TheLAWNOOB View Post

What did you even do??

On topic: The Kabini's power draw is almost half of the i3 3217U and it has alright performance, thus its worth it.
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Half power consumption ?! Not even close

When doing web browsing and HD video playback, there is little difference in power consumption between the two






Even when gaming, it is not half the power consumption

Edited by ThePath - 5/25/13 at 11:29am
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Originally Posted by xoleras View Post

I don't really get their testing methodology. The intent with these chips is similar to the intel atom: to be put in devices with long battery life, 10 hours or more. None of those machines will be gaming powerhouses, in fact the Atom is just as much of a joke in gaming benchmarks.

I really have no idea what Toms is doing with their testing here, TBH - it's like they're testing the Kabini by the same metric a full blown, full size laptop would be tested. It isn't for that market - these chips are designed as low power, long battery life devices for tablets. Not gaming powerhouses. Just IMO.

Actually, You're mistaken. Kabini is not in the same category as Clovertrail. With TDP of 9-25W its the same range as ULV SNB/IVB/HSW.

Even the higher power Temash with a TDP of 8W is way above Clovetrail's sub 4W TDP.
Not only is Kabini for laptops, so is Temash.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/04/30/acer-aspire-v5-amd-temash/

Kabini/Temash's weakness is going to be battery life. Its gotten down to a pretty low TDP level, which will let it compete against ULV SNB/IVB in a way that Trinity never could. However, it doesn't have the same deep idle states that mobile SoCs have, nor does it support Window's connected standby mode. It should offer better battery life than IVB products, but it won't be able to match Clovertrail or Haswell which implement better idle/sleep modes and support connected stand by. Baytrail will be even farther ahead.
Edited by erunion - 5/25/13 at 12:05pm
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Half power consumption ?! Not even close

When doing web browsing and HD video playback, there is little difference in power consumption between the two






Even when gaming, it is not half the power consumption
Then in that case my Bulldozer is just as efficient as Ivy Bridge.
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Even when gaming, it is not half the power consumption



You can appreciate that graph much better when its in context of performance.
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Thread title seems a bit misleading as the performance isn't medicore for an atom sytle chip at all.

Should read, Kabini powerful, power efficient chip lol.

Bizarre test methods from Tom's as well. Guess they need to make AMD look bad somehow...

The OP made up his own title it looks like. The original title is "AMD's Kabini: Jaguar And GCN Come Together In A 15 W APU ". Needs to be changed to meet the ToS. Edit: Looks like he used the conclusion page title instead of the first page, just noticed.

Doesn't look that bad, not great but not bad either. I'm all for more efficiency.
Edited by Strat79 - 5/25/13 at 12:24pm
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Jaguar loses efficiency as the clocks go up it seems. Hopefully Jaguar + will vastly improve on the efficiency and the clocks so we can get some high clocked, low power chips.
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The Tech Report has a IMHO much better review.
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Originally Posted by S.M. View Post

Then in that case my Bulldozer is just as efficient as Ivy Bridge.
Jaguar, not Bulldozer, it's a different architechture. Still quite impressing how a 32nm chip can compete with a 22nm Tri-gate one in both efficiency, performance and size.
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You can appreciate that graph much better when its in context of performance.

I thought it was reasonable for an i3 desktop to hold a candle to an i7 3930K's raw performance, and ignore power consumption and costs?

/sarcasm
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