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Awesome i thought thats what i was going to hear. Yeh i wouldve got better cooling originally but i was only going to grab a single780ti or 780 and instead got these badboys a month or two old for $500 off a mate, cant complain. So im just going to pick up another intake for bottom and exhaust for side and it should be alot better ? cheers
That's hard to promise. Lower both GPUs it might but you'll have to live with the top GPU being 10C higher unless ya want to strap a fan right next to the GPU ... Ghetto-style tongue.gif

Even with 1 gap in between GPUs non-reference designs are just like that, sucking in the hot air of the one below it
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That's hard to promise. Lower both GPUs it might but you'll have to live with the top GPU being 10C higher unless ya want to strap a fan right next to the GPU ... Ghetto-style tongue.gif

Even with 1 gap in between GPUs non-reference designs are just like that, sucking in the hot air of the one below it

Yeh i was thinking that had the most part to do with it. Will it be a substantial decrease in temp ? Is around 80 bad for a card in general ?
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Yeh i was thinking that had the most part to do with it. Will it be a substantial decrease in temp ? Is around 80 bad for a card in general ?
80C is fine. Even with optimal airflow my lightning runs @ 80C full load on air and that's with a SINGLE card mad.gif
Hell they'll even 85C no problem
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About the 750D dust filters, I got a reply from DEMCifilter:
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Hi

Yes, these filters will be up on our site in this week.

Kind regards,
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Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2013 4:40 PM
To: info@demcifilter.com
Subject: Corsair Obsidian 750D

Hello,
Are you planning on releasing a kit of dust filters for 750D?
And if yes, is there any ETA?

Thanks
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80C is fine. Even with optimal airflow my lightning runs @ 80C full load on air and that's with a SINGLE card mad.gif
Hell they'll even 85C no problem

Thats good to hear, will still pick up anothercouple to be safe cheers man
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Hey Dave!

Firstly thanks for posting this thread it's been very useful in helping me decide how I'm going to cool the PC I'm saving up for at the moment.
It will be my first build and will be mainly for gaming, but also audio/video editing and everyday web browsing.
I plan to do some overclocking to the CPU and GPU, but not having them OC'ed 24/7.

The case I'm going to use is a Fractal Define R4 (the windowed version). I know that it doesn't have the best airflow especially the front intakes due to the sound dampening door,
But silence is fairly important to me in this build, at least for when browsing/editing, not so much while gaming.

These are the components for the build:

Case: Fractal Define R4
CPU: i7-4770k
Cooler: Be Quiet! Dark Rock Pro 2
Mobo: Asus Maximus VI Hero
RAM: Mushkin Redline (2x4GB) DDR3-2133
Storage: 1TB WD Caviar Black HDD
128GB Samsung 840 Pro SSD
GPU: EVGA GTX 780 Ti Classified
PSU: Corsair AX760

Would you recommend this fan config? (Also please forgive my poor MS paint skills lol)



I plan to remove both HDD Bays and use the optical bay for my HDD, and mount my SSD on the on the other side of the case.

My reasoning on the Performance SP120's in the front is that all the CFM I can get is needed through that sound dampening door,
and that door in return will keep their noise from annoying me.

Then the SP120 Quiet on the bottom, as it is less restricted, needing less CFM, but is thus more susceptible to creating noise.

By the looks of it you would recommend the SP120 for the rear exhaust, would a Quiet edition suffice, or go for the performance?

I hope to keep the top mounts cover in the sound dampening panels unless high temps for my to open them.

Also I'm not sure how that AX760 PSU intakes/exhausts, what would placement would work best in this case?

And finally (sorry for such a long post just want to get this right) would these 120x38mm fans fit in the front/bottom of the R4 case?

If so which would you recommend?
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Yep. I suggest SP120s for everything and SP120 QE for the rear fan. As for the front i'll leave it up to you. PE is suggested by me but it might be a bit too LOUD so probably use a fan controller and turn it up to 11 on a hot day

Let the AX760 intake from the bottom. As for 120x38 fans it will only fit in the bottom, no space definitely in the front but i don't know of any "quiet" 120x38 that's on the soft side, most of them that i know of are 2000rpm+ (Or thereabout, it's fine for a 25mm but on a 38mm thick fan with blades the entire width of the fan it's going to be louder than 25mm fans, more like a 2500rpm in terms of noise but deliver a 3000rpm 25mm equivalent fan static pressure in the same series)
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Merkarov, I've done a few Define builds and might be able to help. I would suggest using 3 good 140mm PWM fans for intakes; 2x front and 1x bottom. Get a PWM splitter with molex / sata PSU power connector and run case fans on same PWM signal from CPU fan header on motherboard.. so all case fans run similar speed as CPU cooler fans. All idle around 650-750rpm (silent) and only speed up as needed to keep system cool. Even gaming they remain quiet.. GPU being the loudest component.

I also suggest raising the case so there is about 40mm bottom clearance. This way bottom fans have similar airflow area to fan airflow area. This increases airflow as well as keeping fans quiet.

A 140mm fan has about 143sq cm of flow area. PSU and bottom intake total to about 286sq cm. with a perimeter of 72cm. 72 x 4 = 288sq cm airflow area.

I've mostly used Thermalright TY-140 & TY-147 fans. But front fans need to be modified to 140x140mm square. (I use my power miter saw with a very good carbide trim blade)

TY-147 fans
http://www.amazon.co.uk/ThermalRight-TY-147-Thermalright-Fans/dp/B00A4QB4SW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1386327325&sr=8-1&keywords=ty-147

Gelid makes a nice 4-way splitter. Two can be plugged together to run 7 fans... 3x intake, 1x exhaust & 2x CPU cooler.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Gelid-Solutions-Case-Splitter-Cable/dp/B0067LWQ1C/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1386327273&sr=8-4&keywords=pwm+splitter

Best splitter is Swiftech 8-way PWM Splitter Hub but harder to find


Here's a pics of R4 with TY-147 fans. TY-140 fan modified square.
CREATOR: gd-jpeg v1.0 (using IJG JPEG v62), default quality

Castor base for airflow clearance and ease of movement.
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Yep, listen to him. I don't particularly have any idea of FD case airflow tuning.
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