Overclock.net › Forums › Cooling › Air Cooling › OCN Dave's Air Cooling Guide
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

OCN Dave's Air Cooling Guide - Page 156

post #1551 of 2323
will do once i get them...currently at crossroads with supplier to acquire new aio cooler..so just wait a bit till i do get it going...
my baseline will be the phanteks
phtc14pe 's temps vs a aio liquid cooler with same fans..same config as now..
post #1552 of 2323
Ok Hi all, I'm seeking opinions,generally I always go for best performance and this is one area to have max performance.But that said, before discovering some good reviews and the debate going on here, I had already ordered one Aerocool DS 140 for rear intake.

My rig has so far 750D + XSPC RX360 V3 up top, with 3 x SP120 QE Exhaust.

I am still deciding between RX 240 or EX 280 in front, as I was wanting to take full use of the 140mm opening in the front and the high static pressure of the much improved 140mm fans nowdays,originally thinking 2 x Aerocool DS up front, or push pull x 4 for exhaust at front , and 2 x DS 140 in bottom intake, and 1 x rear for intake,
Until I saw the Akasa Viper 140 and I see it has better performance than the DS.

I don't like the looks or colour of anything " better performing " than these 2 fans.
Do you think I'm spliting hairs between these 2 fans and just stay with the DS or is the Viper well worth changing all my fans ?, I guess I want all the same type Viper or DS for colour sceem, including replacing the 3 x SP120's

Any opinions of feedback about fan choice etc.. appreciated
post #1553 of 2323
Hey @DaveLT,

I was wondering what other high end heatsinks are out there besides the D14 and the PH-14PE around the $75ish range.

Are there any comparable heatsinks to these at a lower price point?

I really like the Phanteks one, but with the included fans, it wont fit in the NZXT S340 that I just ordered. The max cooler height is 161mm. I was thinking about ordering the Phanteks and using the included fans as front intake case fans. If I were to replace the fans for 120mm fans in order for the heatsink to fit, what would you recommend besides the Jetflos? I have a pair of Rosewill Hypoborea fans that I got for $9 each a while back, and they are pretty much rebrands of the Akasa Apache fans. What are your thoughts on those as fans on a tower cooler?

Also, I know that you are a big proponent of Deltas, but where do you buy those fans?

Are you a proponent of Scythe Ultra Kaze fans? They are like $11 on Amazon and I just wanted an opinion on them.
Budget Rig V2
(12 items)
 
   
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Xeon X5650 P6T DELUXE NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 G.skill Sniper 
RAMHard DriveCoolingOS
G.skill Sniper Hitachi Raijintek Themis Windows 7 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Rosewill Capstone 750M Corsair C70 Dell Mouse Samson SR950 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
AMD FX-8120 M5A99FX PRO R2.0 AMD Radeon HD 7800 Series AMD Radeon HD 7800 Series 
RAMRAMHard DriveCooling
G.Skill sniper G. Western Digital WD Green Asetek 510lc w/rosewill hypoborea push/pull 
OSMonitorCaseAudio
Windows 7 Ultimate Dell 144ox900 @75hz Corsair C70 Arctic White topping tp 12 amp 
  hide details  
Reply
Budget Rig V2
(12 items)
 
   
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Xeon X5650 P6T DELUXE NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 G.skill Sniper 
RAMHard DriveCoolingOS
G.skill Sniper Hitachi Raijintek Themis Windows 7 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Rosewill Capstone 750M Corsair C70 Dell Mouse Samson SR950 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
AMD FX-8120 M5A99FX PRO R2.0 AMD Radeon HD 7800 Series AMD Radeon HD 7800 Series 
RAMRAMHard DriveCooling
G.Skill sniper G. Western Digital WD Green Asetek 510lc w/rosewill hypoborea push/pull 
OSMonitorCaseAudio
Windows 7 Ultimate Dell 144ox900 @75hz Corsair C70 Arctic White topping tp 12 amp 
  hide details  
Reply
post #1554 of 2323
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultra-m-a-n View Post

Hey @DaveLT,

I was wondering what other high end heatsinks are out there besides the D14 and the PH-14PE around the $75ish range.

Are there any comparable heatsinks to these at a lower price point?

I really like the Phanteks one, but with the included fans, it wont fit in the NZXT S340 that I just ordered. The max cooler height is 161mm. I was thinking about ordering the Phanteks and using the included fans as front intake case fans. If I were to replace the fans for 120mm fans in order for the heatsink to fit, what would you recommend besides the Jetflos? I have a pair of Rosewill Hypoborea fans that I got for $9 each a while back, and they are pretty much rebrands of the Akasa Apache fans. What are your thoughts on those as fans on a tower cooler?

Also, I know that you are a big proponent of Deltas, but where do you buy those fans?

Are you a proponent of Scythe Ultra Kaze fans? They are like $11 on Amazon and I just wanted an opinion on them.

 with that hieght limitation, you might try this from Thermalright

http://www.thermalright.com/html/products/cpu_cooler/hr22.html?panel=1

 

http://www.thermalright.com/html/products/cpu_cooler/hr-02_macho_reva.html?panel=1

 

 


Edited by Red1776 - 10/17/14 at 4:36am
2.2 kW Holodeck
(14 items)
 
Chernobyl
(0 items)
Power Station
(0 items)
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX-8350 @ 5.2GHz Gigabyte GA-990-FXA-UD7 4 x MSI R 290X 4GB Gaming 16GB Corsair Dominator Platinum 2133 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
4 x Seagate 1 TB 7200 2 x Asus Optiarc Koolance 370 CPU WB/ AlphaCool Water cooling: ... Windows 7 Professional 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
1x3+1 Eyefiniy 5760x1080 Gigabyte 8100K V.2 1-AX1200w + 2x FSP x500w Coolermaster Cosmos II Full Tower 
  hide details  
Reply
2.2 kW Holodeck
(14 items)
 
Chernobyl
(0 items)
Power Station
(0 items)
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX-8350 @ 5.2GHz Gigabyte GA-990-FXA-UD7 4 x MSI R 290X 4GB Gaming 16GB Corsair Dominator Platinum 2133 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
4 x Seagate 1 TB 7200 2 x Asus Optiarc Koolance 370 CPU WB/ AlphaCool Water cooling: ... Windows 7 Professional 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
1x3+1 Eyefiniy 5760x1080 Gigabyte 8100K V.2 1-AX1200w + 2x FSP x500w Coolermaster Cosmos II Full Tower 
  hide details  
Reply
post #1555 of 2323
Quote:
Originally Posted by Red1776 View Post

 with that hieght limitation, you might try this from Thermalright
http://www.thermalright.com/html/products/cpu_cooler/hr22.html?panel=1




Wow that thing is big smile.gif

Is it on Amazon?

I know the D14 will fit in the s340, someone confirmed that the other day and it will have a mm or two to spare, but I dont like how it looks, mainly because of the fans.
Also it is only $72 on Amazon currently and its Prime eligible, so free shipping to my APO address here in Germany.

So, pretty much what I am asking is a better performer and value than the D14 at a lower cost.

EDIT:
How far can the center fan on the PH-14PE be pushed down? It looks like the middle fan on the cooler is what is going to cause clearance issues. Anyone with experience with this?
Edited by Ultra-m-a-n - 10/17/14 at 4:39am
Budget Rig V2
(12 items)
 
   
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Xeon X5650 P6T DELUXE NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 G.skill Sniper 
RAMHard DriveCoolingOS
G.skill Sniper Hitachi Raijintek Themis Windows 7 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Rosewill Capstone 750M Corsair C70 Dell Mouse Samson SR950 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
AMD FX-8120 M5A99FX PRO R2.0 AMD Radeon HD 7800 Series AMD Radeon HD 7800 Series 
RAMRAMHard DriveCooling
G.Skill sniper G. Western Digital WD Green Asetek 510lc w/rosewill hypoborea push/pull 
OSMonitorCaseAudio
Windows 7 Ultimate Dell 144ox900 @75hz Corsair C70 Arctic White topping tp 12 amp 
  hide details  
Reply
Budget Rig V2
(12 items)
 
   
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Xeon X5650 P6T DELUXE NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 G.skill Sniper 
RAMHard DriveCoolingOS
G.skill Sniper Hitachi Raijintek Themis Windows 7 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Rosewill Capstone 750M Corsair C70 Dell Mouse Samson SR950 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
AMD FX-8120 M5A99FX PRO R2.0 AMD Radeon HD 7800 Series AMD Radeon HD 7800 Series 
RAMRAMHard DriveCooling
G.Skill sniper G. Western Digital WD Green Asetek 510lc w/rosewill hypoborea push/pull 
OSMonitorCaseAudio
Windows 7 Ultimate Dell 144ox900 @75hz Corsair C70 Arctic White topping tp 12 amp 
  hide details  
Reply
post #1556 of 2323
Quote:
Originally Posted by Red1776 View Post
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultra-m-a-n View Post

Hey @DaveLT,

I was wondering what other high end heatsinks are out there besides the D14 and the PH-14PE around the $75ish range.

Are there any comparable heatsinks to these at a lower price point?

I really like the Phanteks one, but with the included fans, it wont fit in the NZXT S340 that I just ordered. The max cooler height is 161mm. I was thinking about ordering the Phanteks and using the included fans as front intake case fans. If I were to replace the fans for 120mm fans in order for the heatsink to fit, what would you recommend besides the Jetflos? I have a pair of Rosewill Hypoborea fans that I got for $9 each a while back, and they are pretty much rebrands of the Akasa Apache fans. What are your thoughts on those as fans on a tower cooler?

Also, I know that you are a big proponent of Deltas, but where do you buy those fans?

Are you a proponent of Scythe Ultra Kaze fans? They are like $11 on Amazon and I just wanted an opinion on them.

 with that hieght limitation, you might try this from Thermalright

http://www.thermalright.com/html/products/cpu_cooler/hr22.html?panel=1

 

http://www.thermalright.com/html/products/cpu_cooler/hr-02_macho_reva.html?panel=1

 

 

 

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultra-m-a-n View Post
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Red1776 View Post

 with that hieght limitation, you might try this from Thermalright
http://www.thermalright.com/html/products/cpu_cooler/hr22.html?panel=1



Wow that thing is big smile.gif

Is it on Amazon?

I know the D14 will fit in the s340, someone confirmed that the other day and it will have a mm or two to spare, but I dont like how it looks, mainly because of the fans.
Also it is only $72 on Amazon currently and its Prime eligible, so free shipping to my APO address here in Germany.

So, pretty much what I am asking is a better performer and value than the D14 at a lower cost.

 Try the second one, built on the same idea, a bit smaller. Youcan use a different fan with better SP as well.

2.2 kW Holodeck
(14 items)
 
Chernobyl
(0 items)
Power Station
(0 items)
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX-8350 @ 5.2GHz Gigabyte GA-990-FXA-UD7 4 x MSI R 290X 4GB Gaming 16GB Corsair Dominator Platinum 2133 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
4 x Seagate 1 TB 7200 2 x Asus Optiarc Koolance 370 CPU WB/ AlphaCool Water cooling: ... Windows 7 Professional 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
1x3+1 Eyefiniy 5760x1080 Gigabyte 8100K V.2 1-AX1200w + 2x FSP x500w Coolermaster Cosmos II Full Tower 
  hide details  
Reply
2.2 kW Holodeck
(14 items)
 
Chernobyl
(0 items)
Power Station
(0 items)
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX-8350 @ 5.2GHz Gigabyte GA-990-FXA-UD7 4 x MSI R 290X 4GB Gaming 16GB Corsair Dominator Platinum 2133 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
4 x Seagate 1 TB 7200 2 x Asus Optiarc Koolance 370 CPU WB/ AlphaCool Water cooling: ... Windows 7 Professional 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
1x3+1 Eyefiniy 5760x1080 Gigabyte 8100K V.2 1-AX1200w + 2x FSP x500w Coolermaster Cosmos II Full Tower 
  hide details  
Reply
post #1557 of 2323
Quote:
Originally Posted by Red1776 View Post


 Try the second one, built on the same idea, a bit smaller. Youcan use a different fan with better SP as well.

The Macho 120 will fit smile.gif its also $45 on Amazon!

Thanks, now I want to see how this thing performs...
Budget Rig V2
(12 items)
 
   
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Xeon X5650 P6T DELUXE NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 G.skill Sniper 
RAMHard DriveCoolingOS
G.skill Sniper Hitachi Raijintek Themis Windows 7 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Rosewill Capstone 750M Corsair C70 Dell Mouse Samson SR950 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
AMD FX-8120 M5A99FX PRO R2.0 AMD Radeon HD 7800 Series AMD Radeon HD 7800 Series 
RAMRAMHard DriveCooling
G.Skill sniper G. Western Digital WD Green Asetek 510lc w/rosewill hypoborea push/pull 
OSMonitorCaseAudio
Windows 7 Ultimate Dell 144ox900 @75hz Corsair C70 Arctic White topping tp 12 amp 
  hide details  
Reply
Budget Rig V2
(12 items)
 
   
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Xeon X5650 P6T DELUXE NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 G.skill Sniper 
RAMHard DriveCoolingOS
G.skill Sniper Hitachi Raijintek Themis Windows 7 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Rosewill Capstone 750M Corsair C70 Dell Mouse Samson SR950 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
AMD FX-8120 M5A99FX PRO R2.0 AMD Radeon HD 7800 Series AMD Radeon HD 7800 Series 
RAMRAMHard DriveCooling
G.Skill sniper G. Western Digital WD Green Asetek 510lc w/rosewill hypoborea push/pull 
OSMonitorCaseAudio
Windows 7 Ultimate Dell 144ox900 @75hz Corsair C70 Arctic White topping tp 12 amp 
  hide details  
Reply
post #1558 of 2323
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bertovzki View Post

Ok Hi all, I'm seeking opinions,generally I always go for best performance and this is one area to have max performance.But that said, before discovering some good reviews and the debate going on here, I had already ordered one Aerocool DS 140 for rear intake.

My rig has so far 750D + XSPC RX360 V3 up top, with 3 x SP120 QE Exhaust.

I am still deciding between RX 240 or EX 280 in front, as I was wanting to take full use of the 140mm opening in the front and the high static pressure of the much improved 140mm fans nowdays,originally thinking 2 x Aerocool DS up front, or push pull x 4 for exhaust at front , and 2 x DS 140 in bottom intake, and 1 x rear for intake,
Until I saw the Akasa Viper 140 and I see it has better performance than the DS.

I don't like the looks or colour of anything " better performing " than these 2 fans.
Do you think I'm spliting hairs between these 2 fans and just stay with the DS or is the Viper well worth changing all my fans ?, I guess I want all the same type Viper or DS for colour sceem, including replacing the 3 x SP120's

Any opinions of feedback about fan choice etc.. appreciated
Much improved? 140mm fans have not improved ever since I wrote this guide and they still pale in comparison to 120mm fans and yet most 140mm fans are even overrated. Especially the "SP140" from Corsair
Forget the Aerocool DS fans, they're just bling and nothing much else. I have 140mm fan slots and I can't be bothered to use 140mm instead I use 120mm fans because I get the same temps but LESS NOISE.
Otherwise, I would rather get SP120 PE or JetFlo 120 or low speed AFB Deltas (below 2500rpm), a hot favorite of mine.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultra-m-a-n View Post

Hey @DaveLT,

I was wondering what other high end heatsinks are out there besides the D14 and the PH-14PE around the $75ish range.

Are there any comparable heatsinks to these at a lower price point?

I really like the Phanteks one, but with the included fans, it wont fit in the NZXT S340 that I just ordered. The max cooler height is 161mm. I was thinking about ordering the Phanteks and using the included fans as front intake case fans. If I were to replace the fans for 120mm fans in order for the heatsink to fit, what would you recommend besides the Jetflos? I have a pair of Rosewill Hypoborea fans that I got for $9 each a while back, and they are pretty much rebrands of the Akasa Apache fans. What are your thoughts on those as fans on a tower cooler?

Also, I know that you are a big proponent of Deltas, but where do you buy those fans?

Are you a proponent of Scythe Ultra Kaze fans? They are like $11 on Amazon and I just wanted an opinion on them.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835856002
You may want to try this. I have actually put this into a case that supports up to 163mm WITH space to spare.
Actually if you're worried then this will do http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835856003

I'd rather do well NOT to put those hyperboreas as heatsink fans.

The scythe ultra kazes are cheap but they are incredibly noisy for what they are and being sleeve bearing fans, automatically out of my book. My delta AFC1212DE 1.6As are actually quieter than the 3000rpm UK ...
Ayase Eli
(20 items)
 
Testbench
(10 items)
 
MC Server
(13 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Ryzen 7 1700 ASRock X370 SLI Killer Zotac GTX1070 "FE" with ID Cooling Frostflow 240G Crucial BallistiX Sport LP 16GB 8x2GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Zotac SSD Premium 480GB OCZ Vector 180 480GB Hitachi 7K3000 3TB 7200rpm ID Cooling Frostflow 240L 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
ID Cooling Frostflow 240G Phanteks F140MP x2 CoolerMaster Silencio FP120 x2 Phanteks F140SP 
CoolingMonitorKeyboardPower
Delta AFB1212SH x2 Dell U2713HM CM Storm MECH FSP Aurum PT 1200 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Phanteks Enthoo Pro Logitech G102 Tesoro Aegis X3 Virtus.Pro AKG K7XX 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7 6700k Gigabyte Z170X-UD5 Depends Depends 
Hard DriveCoolingMonitorKeyboard
Plextor M5S Depends Dell U2312HM CM Storm Quickfire Rapid-i 
PowerMouse
FSP Aurum PT 1200 CM Storm Mizar 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7 2600 4GHz Gigabyte Z77X D3H Intel HD Graphics 2000 obviously Kingston HyperX Genesis 4X4GB DDR3 1600 
Hard DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
Intel 530 240GB Deepcool Captain 240 Arctic Cooling Bionix 140 Delta AFB1212L 
OSPowerCase
Windows 10 Pro CoolerMaster G750M NZXT Switch 810 
  hide details  
Reply
Ayase Eli
(20 items)
 
Testbench
(10 items)
 
MC Server
(13 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Ryzen 7 1700 ASRock X370 SLI Killer Zotac GTX1070 "FE" with ID Cooling Frostflow 240G Crucial BallistiX Sport LP 16GB 8x2GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Zotac SSD Premium 480GB OCZ Vector 180 480GB Hitachi 7K3000 3TB 7200rpm ID Cooling Frostflow 240L 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
ID Cooling Frostflow 240G Phanteks F140MP x2 CoolerMaster Silencio FP120 x2 Phanteks F140SP 
CoolingMonitorKeyboardPower
Delta AFB1212SH x2 Dell U2713HM CM Storm MECH FSP Aurum PT 1200 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Phanteks Enthoo Pro Logitech G102 Tesoro Aegis X3 Virtus.Pro AKG K7XX 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7 6700k Gigabyte Z170X-UD5 Depends Depends 
Hard DriveCoolingMonitorKeyboard
Plextor M5S Depends Dell U2312HM CM Storm Quickfire Rapid-i 
PowerMouse
FSP Aurum PT 1200 CM Storm Mizar 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7 2600 4GHz Gigabyte Z77X D3H Intel HD Graphics 2000 obviously Kingston HyperX Genesis 4X4GB DDR3 1600 
Hard DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
Intel 530 240GB Deepcool Captain 240 Arctic Cooling Bionix 140 Delta AFB1212L 
OSPowerCase
Windows 10 Pro CoolerMaster G750M NZXT Switch 810 
  hide details  
Reply
post #1559 of 2323
http://www.bequiet.com/en/cpucooler


for 140mm fans..look at
http://www.noctua.at/main.php?show=productview&products_id=84&lng=en


biggrin.gif:D:D:rolleyes:rolleyes.gifrolleyes.gifrolleyes.gifthumb.gifthumb.gifthumb.gif
Edited by X-PREDATOR - 10/17/14 at 5:19am
post #1560 of 2323
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=933KF2aqjyM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aDID5S41_A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXAFYNE7Cl0

this a great example of noise in a real setup situation...hope you all enjoy this


thumb.gifthumb.gifthumb.gifthumb.gifthumb.gifthumb.gifthumb.gifthumb.gifthumb.gifthumb.gif
Edited by X-PREDATOR - 10/17/14 at 5:53am
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Air Cooling
Overclock.net › Forums › Cooling › Air Cooling › OCN Dave's Air Cooling Guide