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Nope this is even better


I have a Deepcool Captain 360, Maelstrom 120 and Lucifer V2 on the way. A maelstrom 240 is actually hiding in my switch 810 actually.
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Thanks, I just ordered the Phanteks, and I am just going to replace the fans with AP15s. I might move the 140mm to the front of the case though.
WOW! $15?! I freaking bit the bullet and I ordered 4 of them hahaha I figure they were already hard to find, and this is the first time I have seen them on Amazon Prime, and if I tried to track down new ones down the line I wouldnt be able to get free shipping to my APO address, and the price might be even higher!

I figure there is going to be better fans that can move much more air at higher RPMs, just because the design of the blades and the lack of depth as well. But I want a quieter computer since moving here to Germany, its so quiet here that I can here my computer from downstairs.
I'm not sure ... You know, those 140mms are pretty good already and as I said before I wouldn't use a 140mm on a air intake.
Edited by DaveLT - 10/17/14 at 2:14pm
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Much improved? 140mm fans have not improved ever since I wrote this guide and they still pale in comparison to 120mm fans and yet most 140mm fans are even overrated. Especially the "SP140" from Corsair
Forget the Aerocool DS fans, they're just bling and nothing much else. I have 140mm fan slots and I can't be bothered to use 140mm instead I use 120mm fans because I get the same temps but LESS NOISE.
Otherwise, I would rather get SP120 PE or JetFlo 120 or low speed AFB Deltas (below 2500rpm), a hot favorite of mine.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835856002
You may want to try this. I have actually put this into a case that supports up to 163mm WITH space to spare.
Actually if you're worried then this will do http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835856003

I'd rather do well NOT to put those hyperboreas as heatsink fans.

The scythe ultra kazes are cheap but they are incredibly noisy for what they are and being sleeve bearing fans, automatically out of my book. My delta AFC1212DE 1.6As are actually quieter than the 3000rpm UK ...

Thanks for feedback I will look at this latter when I'm home from work,re- better performance, I read latter after buying my SP120's that there are 140's I mentioned ,that have better specs.

The question is why do manufacturers lie about CFM and such, and how do the get away with it,as it is false advertising , both fans I mention have much higher specs, but no one recomends them in the real world.

Thanks for reply
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Well "ignorant fools" aside I have been playing with the 140mm version of the Jet flos and they produce some very good SP.

I'm buying the 3.55mmH2O advertised


 

Quote:DaveLT

Much improved? 140mm fans have not improved ever since I wrote this guide and they still pale in comparison to 120mm fans and yet most 140mm fans are even overrated. Especially the "SP140" from Corsair

 

Well it wouls appear that CM is puting some R&D into it. I eould not have previously opted for a 140mm fan for Rad cooling either, however the Jetflo 140 seems to have broken the mold. These are very good and generate very good SP.

 

 

 


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@DaveLT

Yeah that's why I got another set of ap15s.. But the fans would if I used the 140mm fans there it would be for aesthetic reasons. Or me wanting to put the AP15 as a rear exhaust and top intake.
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Well "ignorant fools" aside I have been playing with the 140mm version of the Jet flos and they produce some very good SP.
I'm buying the 3.55mmH2O advertised


 
Well it wouls appear that CM is puting some R&D into it. I eould not have previously opted for a 140mm fan for Rad cooling either, however the Jetflo 140 seems to have broken the mold. These are very good and generate very good SP.


 
Unfortunately I do have them and they are rather extremely noisy and have quite low SP.
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Thanks for feedback I will look at this latter when I'm home from work,re- better performance, I read latter after buying my SP120's that there are 140's I mentioned ,that have better specs.

The question is why do manufacturers lie about CFM and such, and how do the get away with it,as it is false advertising , both fans I mention have much higher specs, but no one recomends them in the real world.

Thanks for reply
But the "SP140" is just garbage. The new line of fans from corsair are just crap.

Because marketing, man. Consumers are the biggest fools and hardware companies such as corsair is often a big cheat (If you can sense me pun tongue.gif ). Why do you think M$ got away with making the same damn OS for so many years and consumers just keep sticking with it
What you're paying for on a corsair is the badge, that's all there is to it. Reminds me of which ..
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Well performance might have ap15s mislabeled as ap14s

And thats a power supply.
But thats really only if i get the highspeed fans because its rpm and 12v and ground.
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@dave..
way in the start when i came to your thread we actualy talked of the jetflo 140's
and you said to me then and there
that they are amazing fans both air and sp wise..
so why dance a different song now????
2ndly..youre talking out of your own teeth saying a 140mm fan as intake is crap..
your basickly then spitting in the face of a lot of case manufacturers dude..
most of phanteks (example) cases have their 140mm fans included..
im yet to see a negative impact on temps on my own setup as
my bottom/side *2 /rear /front in 5.25bay
and center fan on my.phtc14pe..are all 140mm fans...
and ive shown countless temp readings were ever i go on my setups temps...
so dont blow the whistle so quickly bro

heck if i was smarter 3years ago..i wouldve baught ten times as many of the same fans i still have..cause theyve serve me and my pc in turn..pretty darn good...
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Well "ignorant fools" aside I have been playing with the 140mm version of the Jet flos and they produce some very good SP.
I'm buying the 3.55mmH2O advertised


 
Well it woulds appear that CM is putting some R&D into it. I would not have previously opted for a 140mm fan for Rad cooling either, however the Jetflo 140 seems to have broken the mold. These are very good and generate very good SP.


 
Unfortunately I do have them and they are rather extremely noisy and have quite low SP.
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Thanks for feedback I will look at this latter when I'm home from work,re- better performance, I read latter after buying my SP120's that there are 140's I mentioned ,that have better specs.

The question is why do manufacturers lie about CFM and such, and how do the get away with it,as it is false advertising , both fans I mention have much higher specs, but no one recomends them in the real world.

Thanks for reply
But the "SP140" is just garbage. The new line of fans from corsair are just crap.

Because marketing, man. Consumers are the biggest fools and hardware companies such as corsair is often a big cheat (If you can sense me pun tongue.gif ). Why do you think M$ got away with making the same damn OS for so many years and consumers just keep sticking with it
What you're paying for on a corsair is the badge, that's all there is to it. Reminds me of which ..
 
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Unfortunately I do have them and they are rather extremely noisy and have quite low SP.

I put them on both a 60mm and 45mm radiator and unless I am wrong that the idea is for the fan to push/pull air through the radiator and remove a good amount of heat with that expelled air...your above statement is incorrect.

No worries though. This is easily proved both visually, and by temperature. Something I intend to illustrate as part of my Project. I will send you the link :)

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I put them on both a 60mm and 45mm radiator and unless I am wrong that the idea is for the fan to push/pull air through the radiator and remove a good amount of heat with that expelled air...your above statement is incorrect.
No worries though. This is easily proved both visually, and by temperature. Something I intend to illustrate as part of my Project. I will send you the link smile.gif
Wot? Are you implying I am totally incorrect?


I'll leave it up to you if you think I am wrong with everything. Because I actually measured 55dB on these compared to 53dB on my FFB1212VHE and we're talking about a fan with double the airflow and 4x the static pressure
Actually if you think I'm wrong what are you even doing here?
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@dave..
way in the start when i came to your thread we actualy talked of the jetflo 140's
and you said to me then and there
that they are amazing fans both air and sp wise..
so why dance a different song now????
2ndly..youre talking out of your own teeth saying a 140mm fan as intake is crap..
your basickly then spitting in the face of a lot of case manufacturers dude..
most of phanteks (example) cases have their 140mm fans included..
im yet to see a negative impact on temps on my own setup as
my bottom/side *2 /rear /front in 5.25bay
and center fan on my.phtc14pe..are all 140mm fans...
and ive shown countless temp readings were ever i go on my setups temps...
so dont blow the whistle so quickly bro

heck if i was smarter 3years ago..i wouldve baught ten times as many of the same fans i still have..cause theyve serve me and my pc in turn..pretty darn good...
Jetflo 120, not 140 and nowhere in my posts have I sung praises of the fans. All I just wanted to know what the "POM bearing" 140s were like because the ones I have bearing rattle @ 1500rpm
Does it mean case manufacturers are right? No. You are just being foolish also once again, lrn2english. I still can hardly make out what you are typing

So it boils down to this. Probably best to mute the clots that do not do anything but try to make me lose credibility by spouting rubbish
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I put them on both a 60mm and 45mm radiator and unless I am wrong that the idea is for the fan to push/pull air through the radiator and remove a good amount of heat with that expelled air...your above statement is incorrect.
No worries though. This is easily proved both visually, and by temperature. Something I intend to illustrate as part of my Project. I will send you the link smile.gif
Wot? Are you implying I am totally incorrect?


I'll leave it up to you if you think I am wrong with everything. Because I actually measured 55dB on these compared to 53dB on my FFB1212VHE and we're talking about a fan with double the airflow and 4x the static pressure
Actually if you think I'm wrong what are you even doing here?
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Originally Posted by X-PREDATOR View Post

@dave..
way in the start when i came to your thread we actualy talked of the jetflo 140's
and you said to me then and there
that they are amazing fans both air and sp wise..
so why dance a different song now????
2ndly..youre talking out of your own teeth saying a 140mm fan as intake is crap..
your basickly then spitting in the face of a lot of case manufacturers dude..
most of phanteks (example) cases have their 140mm fans included..
im yet to see a negative impact on temps on my own setup as
my bottom/side *2 /rear /front in 5.25bay
and center fan on my.phtc14pe..are all 140mm fans...
and ive shown countless temp readings were ever i go on my setups temps...
so dont blow the whistle so quickly bro

heck if i was smarter 3years ago..i wouldve baught ten times as many of the same fans i still have..cause theyve serve me and my pc in turn..pretty darn good...
Jetflo 120, not 140.
Does it mean case manufacturers are right? No. You are just being foolish.

Sound level was not mentioned in my response , however they sound nowhere near 55 dB. They run 39-45dB secondly you are being puerile . I said they are effective and have good SP. Both are true. 

The fact that you know of , or have a different, faster, higher sp, etc has nothing to do with my statements and findings.

See In the outside world, not every single aspect is automatically compared to a Delta product. They also make a fan that has 30mmH2O, why not compare everything else to that?

Cooler Master made a product...it performs nicely...the fans work as advertised...the end. 

 

Quote:
Actually if you think I'm wrong what are you even doing here?

Wow, really? I invite you to take a minute to think about that sentence. So don't visit, add to, or come to this forum unless one agrees with you? 

 

I think that about sums it up. 

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