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petkovski,
Dave probably didn't take his medication today. biggrin.gif
We can't monitor CPU temp with an IF sensor .. unless you want to try running your CPU with no cooler on it. :devil.gif
tatmMRKIV
Does that really matter? Aren't the software reading good enough for our needs?
Gettin' real tired of your crap doyll.
The way AMD sensors work is so bad that I had to resort to using a IR thermo when I was benching a 7850k. Unless your contact is poor your temps will be more or less spot on. And unlike Intel the FMx processors even though they use TIM (Not sure about 7850k) they have a large surface area so temp differences is pretty much close to zero

Aida64-E was reading something like 30C and obviously my room temp is nowhere near 23C for the stock cooler to be running so cool on full load and with a OC on the GPU
Edited by DaveLT - 10/24/14 at 11:25am
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I'm still relying on software measurements and I feel comfortable with that. Yes I know that AMD sucks at showing correct temperature the bigger the offset is from TMax, but I think that with these readings I'm pretty "cool" and I don't have to worry about overheating or damaging components.
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@petkovski
another simple possibility is by relying to the mobo sensor during low,
something like this (the red square) on the h/w monitor:



it's not that accurate,
but probably better than having a false readout biggrin.gif
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I'm still relying on software measurements and I feel comfortable with that. Yes I know that AMD sucks at showing correct temperature the bigger the offset is from TMax, but I think that with these readings I'm pretty "cool" and I don't have to worry about overheating or damaging components.
Actually, I get weird readings on Intel boards sometimes too so it's always safer to rely on what you can actually see.
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Will try and get a reading with an IR. I can actually point at the CPU itself because of the heatsink design. Will update both of you with my readings.
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I'm from Missouri. I find it extremely hard to believe an IF reading off of edge of IHS setting under a heatsink isn't several degrees cooler than the actual chip.
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Artistar
nice pc dude..i had a cm storm enforcer..same layout as your cases insides...worst case ive ever owned,,,temps/cooling was horrible in it....
you can always drill a few new holes off center in the top to mount it more to the side then push pull will happen
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Artistar
nice pc dude..i had a cm storm enforcer..same layout as your cases insides...worst case ive ever owned,,,temps/cooling was horrible in it....
you can always drill a few new holes off center in the top to mount it more to the side then push pull will happen

X-PREDATOR, thanks for the 'compliment'. I think you've taken 'your eye off the ball' fella: I've already explanained, I already have a full push-pull set up. I think you got distracted by the Xigamatek 200mm fan on the top( I did say it was an earlier pic and also mentioned that I had a pair under the H100i and.a pair above.).

Presently temps are just a little too high not majorly chronic. The CPU goes to about 65 celcius on 'full chat'. With the GPU's reaching , top 80 and bottom 67. I'd like to bring it back down on the GPU front .
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post #1708 of 2323
ive seen a few reviewers including linus tech tips use a IR sensor gun and in their newer test setup they use one of those with temp probes attached..
and compared to hwmonitor/coretemp/realtemp/aida/hwinfo
their alot more accurate and the software is usualy +-2 to 10°C warmer..
so neither is the best way
both methods have an upside and a dowside...

maybe if any1 here has a delid chip can put a temp probe directly to the core with the cooler on top? that should give best temp reading?

@dave..ive used plenty sickle flows..cant agree more..theyre horrible..theyre ok for 1 week then start with all their crap..
i was just saying these new fans in that review look very promising
if they go retail..ill definitely get a few and try them..already made a request from CM and supplier
post #1709 of 2323
ok
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XbUoPSfM3mE

if any 1 can get a dozen of these fans...pm me asap...they look very promising...almost makes me wana buy that kit just to get them...
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Anyone know how many amps a z87 asrock ext6 motherboard fan header can handle can't seem to find it in the manual I have 4 120 jetflo fans to hook up , and is it fine to hook a couple of these up to the 3 pin header ?
I was going to get a lamptron fc5 v3 but can't find any in Australia only the fc6 anyone know where these can be purchased ?
Edited by sav4 - 11/1/14 at 1:23am
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