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Those temps are not too bad.
Especially if temps inside of case are5-10c warmer extended load runs.
How long does it take for system to reach maximum temps under full load?
If more than 3-4minutes, your case is most likely not exhausting all of the coolers' heated exhaust and cooler intake airflow is being heated up by it's own heated exhaust.[/quote

Temps take a max of a minute to peak then if say a bench mark is run it continues to rise til I shut the bench down around 3 runs of IBT as it nears 90 .
I have dropped my oc down to get the previous temps in normal use ]
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Originally Posted by doyll View Post

Those temps are not too bad.
Especially if temps inside of case are5-10c warmer extended load runs.
How long does it take for system to reach maximum temps under full load?
If more than 3-4minutes, your case is most likely not exhausting all of the coolers' heated exhaust and cooler intake airflow is being heated up by it's own heated exhaust.

Temps take a max of a minute to peak then if say a bench mark is run it continues to rise til I shut the bench down around 3 runs of IBT as it nears 90 .
I have dropped my oc down to get the previous temps in normal use ]

So they are not peaking in a minute, but continue to rise until you shut down the test.

Like I said:
Case air is increasing in temperature.

Only other possible reason is coolers are not capable of keeping component cool.
My money is on case air is getting progressively warmer. thumb.gif
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So they are not peaking in a minute, but continue to rise until you shut down the test.

Like I said:
Case air is increasing in temperature.

Only other possible reason is coolers are not capable of keeping component cool.
My money is on case air is getting progressively warmer. thumb.gif

So should I add more exhausts or is it a limitation of my case ?
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I commented on your case and made suggestions in first post to you.
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Honestly, I dont want any control with them. I want them to sit at the minimum PWM speed constantly regardless of what the pwm signal from the mobo is telling the fan to run.

If this is how you intend to use the fans then you bought the wrong ones. You could have bought less expensive 3 pin fans and dropped the voltage. However you can use your idea and tweak it to make the most of the PWM fans you have. Many motherboards will allow custom fan curves for PWM headers. Get a PWM splitter that will allow you to connect all the fan. The put a custom curve in where you keep the fans at minimum speed until set temp is reached and then begin to ramp up.

This allows you to keep the minimal speed most of the time and the quiet operation while at the same time using the abilities of the PWM to protect the system if heat builds to high.

Now for a quick question, has anyone used the Deadsilent fans yet?



These look really cool and I am wondering about using them. Also how does the Enermax TB Vegas and TB Apolloish compare as well.


Edited by Mopar63 - 1/25/15 at 5:29am
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If this is how you intend to use the fans then you bought the wrong ones. You could have bought less expensive 3 pin fans and dropped the voltage. However you can use your idea and tweak it to make the most of the PWM fans you have. Many motherboards will allow custom fan curves for PWM headers. Get a PWM splitter that will allow you to connect all the fan. The put a custom curve in where you keep the fans at minimum speed until set temp is reached and then begin to ramp up.

This allows you to keep the minimal speed most of the time and the quiet operation while at the same time using the abilities of the PWM to protect the system if heat builds to high.

Now for a quick question, has anyone used the Deadsilent fans yet?



These look really cool and I am wondering about using them. Also how does the Enermax TB Vegas and TB Apolloish compare as well. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
I asked how the DS is on this thread months ago and was told it is rubbish , not even close to true , this is an excellent fan , I have since asked everyone on the OCN and elsewhere that i come across , about this fan , is it quiet ? , does it cool well ? does it have good static pressure for a 140 mm , and every time without failure , everyone that owns this fan loves it ! , they love all aspects of its performance.

The only negative thing about this fan is the coloured versions have led's that can not be turned off , they are always on , and they do dim with the voltage input , this is something i am not happy about and will either take the time to re wire them and switch them , or i will remove them , this may not bother a lot of people , but lighting is my main theme in my build , so i want full control of lighting , where and when i want it.

It also depends what you want from a fan , do you want cooling at any cost of noise , and dont mind a 7500 RPM jet turbine that starts to scream at 1/4 of its speed let alone at full speed , but of course it's cooling is awesome ? , or does aesthetics mean everything ? or maybe it has to be quiet at all cost ?

The DS does everything it needs to do and it does it very well indeed , I only have one so far that i have not used yet , but i have done my own very basic testing , just merely holding a 140 mm DS up against me RX 360 Rad and feeling the airflow on my hands and face , it pushes plenty of air through the radiator, and very windy and cool on the face , this is very scientific analysis and an effective way of crunching data biggrin.gif but it works , and it works better than my Corsair SP 120 QE , which also works fine.

So for me personally good fair performance , quiet and great aesthetics are what i want from my fans , this is why i will soon have all DS fans , i also have the EX 280 rad so i will have mostly 140 mm versions , in retrospect i would have gone for a EX 420 up top instead of a RX 360 , and had all 140 mm fans now i know how good these fans are.
Edited by Bertovzki - 1/25/15 at 1:07pm
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I asked how the DS is on this thread months ago and was told it is rubbish , not even close to true , this is an excellent fan , I have since asked everyone on the OCN and elsewhere that i come across , about this fan , is it quiet ? , does it cool well ? does it have good static pressure for a 140 mm , and every time without failure , everyone that owns this fan loves it ! , they love all aspects of its performance.

The only negative thing about this fan is the coloured versions have led's that can not be turned off , they are always on , and they do dim with the voltage input , this is something i am not happy about and will either take the time to re wire them and switch them , or i will remove them , this may not bother a lot of people , but lighting is my main theme in my build , so i want full control of lighting , where and when i want it.

It also depends what you want from a fan , do you want cooling at any cost of noise , and dont mind a 7500 RPM jet turbine that starts to scream at 1/4 of its speed let alone at full speed , but of course it's cooling is awesome ? , or does aesthetics mean everything ? or maybe it has to be quiet at all cost ?

The DS does everything it needs to do and it does it very well indeed , I only have one so far that i have not used yet , but i have done my own very basic testing , just merely holding a 140 mm DS up against me RX 360 Rad and feeling the airflow on my hands and face , it pushes plenty of air through the radiator, and very windy and cool on the face , this is very scientific analysis and an effective way of crunching data biggrin.gif but it works , and it works better than my Corsair SP 120 QE , which also works fine.

So for me personally good fair performance , quiet and great aesthetics are what i want from my fans , this is why i will soon have all DS fans , i also have the EX 280 rad so i will have mostly 140 mm versions , in retrospect i would have gone for a EX 420 up top instead of a RX 360 , and had all 140 mm fans now i know how good these fans are.

Thanks for the info. I just upgraded my MB, CPU, and memory, but my MB is a different color from my old one. Since I'm so anal, I'm changing my entire color scheme to match (my new MB is black and white). So, I've been looking to replace my green fans with either white or black and white fans with white LEDs. I ran across these fans, and the look of them really grabbed my attention so I've been trying to find someone who has them to find out how they perform. I think you just answered my question. Any ideas who has the best price on them and if they make different sizes?
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Thanks for the info. I just upgraded my MB, CPU, and memory, but my MB is a different color from my old one. Since I'm so anal, I'm changing my entire color scheme to match (my new MB is black and white). So, I've been looking to replace my green fans with either white or black and white fans with white LEDs. I ran across these fans, and the look of them really grabbed my attention so I've been trying to find someone who has them to find out how they perform. I think you just answered my question. Any ideas who has the best price on them and if they make different sizes?
They make 140 , 120 mm , blue , red , black and white

Frozen : http://www.frozencpu.com/search.html?mv_profile=keyword_search&mv_session_id=yccB7yMn&searchspec=aerocool+ds+140&go.x=0&go.y=0
Also search Aerocool DS 120 at Frozencpu they have them too $ 21.99 for a 140 mm

I personally have had only one bussiness dealing with Performance PC's , and it was extremely bad ! , they are the worst people i have dealt with, so dont recommend them although they stock them too.

And Amazon : http://www.amazon.com/AeroCool-Cooling-DS-140mm-White/dp/B00JRTM7N8 $19.99 for a 140 mm , also do a search there and you will get their 120 mm too

And if you do a search in Google for the Areocool DS 140 or 120 and see if anyone else stocks them , and chck if the black and white version has led's im pretty sure that one doesnt.
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Superbiiz has them for the same price as Amazon. I have nothing but good things to say about that store.
http://www.superbiiz.com/query.php?categry=139&name=Case-Fans&brand=AeroCool
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So, Silverstone FQ141 and FQ121, anyone has any experience with them?
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