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I commented on your case and made suggestions in first post to you.
I have removed unused PCI slots, top h/d cage no room to fit a bottom or drive bay fan.
Temps are still very similar.
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I have removed unused PCI slots, top h/d cage no room to fit a bottom or drive bay fan.
Temps are still very similar.
Check out the first link in my sig. The case cooling tutorial might be helpful. Without knowing what the air temp going into cooler it is hard to say what to try next. Once we know if cooler intake air temp is less than 5c above room temp, we will know it's not an air temperature problem. Then we know it's the cooler or it's mounting .. or too much CPU voltage .. or .. or ..
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If this is how you intend to use the fans then you bought the wrong ones. You could have bought less expensive 3 pin fans and dropped the voltage. However you can use your idea and tweak it to make the most of the PWM fans you have. Many motherboards will allow custom fan curves for PWM headers. Get a PWM splitter that will allow you to connect all the fan. The put a custom curve in where you keep the fans at minimum speed until set temp is reached and then begin to ramp up.

This allows you to keep the minimal speed most of the time and the quiet operation while at the same time using the abilities of the PWM to protect the system if heat builds to high.

Now for a quick question, has anyone used the Deadsilent fans yet?



These look really cool and I am wondering about using them. Also how does the Enermax TB Vegas and TB Apolloish compare as well.

I still maintain they are garbage.
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So, Silverstone FQ141 and FQ121, anyone has any experience with them?
They are actually good fans O.o
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They are actually good fans O.o

How good, is... good?
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I still maintain they are garbage.
They are actually good fans O.o
If i was air cooling id most likely use a more powerful fan too , but i just want a gentle air flow through my rads at a quiet sound level and the DS will do that easily at half speed
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If you have enough rad space, fan speed and performance can be sacrificed.
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If i was air cooling id most likely use a more powerful fan too , but i just want a gentle air flow through my rads at a quiet sound level and the DS will do that easily at half speed
Of which is garbage to begin with.
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How good, is... good?
I would take the FW122 over the FQ though.

These fans look really interesting and is cheap.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4UF1H80571
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4UF2E16711

provided it's not overrated.
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Of which is garbage to begin with.
I would take the FW122 over the FQ though.

These fans look really interesting and is cheap.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4UF1H80571
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4UF2E16711

provided it's not overrated.
It depends on what you want from a fan , and if you are opinionated and confrontational or not , you see to me the definition of garbage would be a fan that screams like a turbine from a jet engine and talking to someone like you choose to , that is garbage !

You bring your thread on air cooling down to a level that belittles it and makes it relatively useless for advise to anyone , because if its not dave's fan then its garbage , no tactful or intelligent feed back , just trashing of anyones opinion that is not yours.

And for the record i will state again , i have asked every OCN user that i have seen that has the fan , and others from other sites , and %100 good feedback of both performance and noise level and that is at least 15 people , so i draw my conclusions from my own experience and all the other happy DS owners.

So to anyone Wanting to know about the Aerocool DS fans they are very good in all aspects for a fan, unless you want the highest of airflow aesthetics has no importance , and you are not bothered by noise or would just like the option to crank a fan to high RPM for max cooling then dont choose the DS listen to recommendations for such a fan.

When it comes down to it it is all to do with RPM and what you want from a fan 7500 RPM is awesome if thats what smokes your tyres , rocks your socks.
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I'm using the Cryorig fans. RPM to RPM they are not as quiet as some, but have higher pressure so can run slower and still move a good amount of air.

This is the trade off. More pressure = more noise. But more pressure means lower RPM will deliver same amount of air as lower pressure fan at higher RPM .. making CFM at dBA with resistance about the same. It's a P-Q curve thing.

Example:
Kool-38HBK rated 135cfm & 4.064mm H2O and San Ace H1101 is rated 128cfm & 4.714mm H2O.
But San Ace H1101 flows 93.6cfm while Kool-38HBK flows 75.3cfm at same 1.778mm H2O.

Edited by doyll - 2/8/15 at 1:46am
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I'm using the Cryorig fans. RPM to RPM they are not as quiet as some, but have higher pressure so can run slower and still move a good amount of air.

This is the trade off. More pressure = more noise. But more pressure means lower RPM will deliver same amount of air as lower pressure fan at higher RPM .. making CFM at dBA with resistance about the same. It's a P-Q curve thing.
Thanks for the constructive feedback , yeah its pretty much how iv always seen it , its not just RPM , as stated in last post , i knew that , just keeping it pointed and uncomplicated , there is always in most things in life a compromise , nothing is perfect , so like you say Static pressure being another aspect vs noise and perfomance, or RPM vs noise , or fan blade tip design , and to cut it short all the other things that make a good fan , Material , bearings , housing , size , manufacturer , preference , aesthetics , requirement , smell and taste , lol ok just kidding on last 2 , anyway , I fully understand what a fan is , and an airplane or jet , and silence or noise , and quite frankly i know i am an amateur compared to you guys , but i do know what is what and what the compromises are , the trade offs , and what i want from a fan and appreciate what others are expecting or are asking from a fan.

What makes the OCN so damn good is to discuss , agree or disagree , to keep an open mind and to learn from each other and be humble , and to have reason and supportive facts behind opinion and points of view ,my previous post is first time i have directly challenged a post so pointedly , i would not have bothered but it is so wrong , not even close to fact , just a n abrasive non constructive answer , that for once IMO requires a response , if the DS was Garbage then just 1 owner would say so , but not one has , that speaks volumes about what an awesome fan it is for what us users of the fan want , which speaking for myself is : Quiet , more than adequate airflow and cooling and Aesthetics , yes this was important to me or i would have chosen some other fan quite frankly, but if you want a great all rounder and a great looking fan then DS is it ! , it smokes my tyres. biggrin.gif
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