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Want to know a fan that does a better job than almost every other fan out there? IF you're ignoring that line then you have been not looking
Delta AFB series and San Ace 9S series
Kind of depends on the situation and needs in terms of what size fan. Not everyone uses 120mm fans. For me I run a 180mm intake, and 120mm exhaust.

The Delta AFB series 120mm still spins high, overall they are loud, good series but Id actually take an Akasa thermal or viper fan over it for most needs, especially if we are looking at the 25mm thick units..
Edited by ZippyPinhead - 12/16/13 at 8:37am
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Kind of depends on the situation and needs in terms of what size fan. Not everyone uses 120mm fans. For me I run a 180mm intake, and 120mm exhaust.

The Delta AFB series 120mm still spins high, overall they are loud, good series but Id actually take an Akasa thermal or viper fan over it for most needs, especially if we are looking at the 25mm thick units..
:facepalm:
High? It's hardly loud at all. Akasa fans are highly highly overrated.
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Kind of depends on the situation and needs in terms of what size fan. Not everyone uses 120mm fans. For me I run a 180mm intake, and 120mm exhaust.

The Delta AFB series 120mm still spins high, overall they are loud, good series but Id actually take an Akasa thermal or viper fan over it for most needs, especially if we are looking at the 25mm thick units..
:facepalm:
High? It's hardly loud at all. Akasa fans are highly highly overrated.

I feel you are too sure about your opinions!

I can't use any of those strong fans. I need to run fans very slow (less than 600 RPM) to not slowly go crazy when trying to work on stuff in a quiet room (without music etc.). At that point, any ticking or other annoying noise of fans will be louder than the noise from air moving, so a lot of fans get annoying for me that are normally fine at 1000+ RPM. Ball bearing sounds slightly annoying to me.
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I feel you are too sure about your opinions!

I can't use any of those strong fans. I need to run fans very slow (less than 600 RPM) to not slowly go crazy when trying to work on stuff in a quiet room (without music etc.). At that point, any ticking or other annoying noise of fans will be louder than the noise from air moving, so a lot of fans get annoying for me that are normally fine at 1000+ RPM. Ball bearing sounds slightly annoying to me.
If you want a 600rpm fan a AFB PWM fan will run @ 550rpm over PWM smile.gif
Non-PWM ones will run on voltage without ticking and the AFBs will start off at 600rpm easily depending on model but most likely L and M model
Eh ... Single ball bearing is pretty annoying but dual ball bearings have a sweet overtone. Hydro "modded sleeve" fans have a nasty overtone that i can hear
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:facepalm:
High? It's hardly loud at all. Akasa fans are highly highly overrated.
Akasa fans are highly overrated? Really? Please show some review test stats on the viper/thermal 120mmx25mm fans that shows that. They use a good blade, spin at a reasonable rpm rate and are relatively quiet. For me works as a great exhaust fan. Delta's competing 120x25mm AFB fan is not as good, it pushes a bit less air and is significantly louder. Your blanket statements are highly questionable.
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Akasa fans are highly overrated? Really? Please show some review test stats on the viper/thermal 120mmx25mm fans that shows that. They use a good blade, spin at a reasonable rpm rate and are relatively quiet. For me works as a great exhaust fan. Delta's competing 120x25mm AFB fan is not as good, it pushes a bit less air and is significantly louder. Your blanket statements are highly questionable.
Without taking into constant restraints like ... A FILTER
Your blanket statements are even more questionable smile.gif
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Without taking into constant restraints like ... A FILTER
Your blanket statements are even more questionable smile.gif
A filter? What does a filter have to do with anything in this specific part of the debate?


Where is that test data bro? thumb.gif

Delta makes fine purpose specific fans, but your blanket statements made really have no merit or any proof backing up a variety of differenct scenarios, implementations and outright performance. Simple as that.

If I am building up a large high duty server, in an environment where noise is not an issue, I'll gladly use or recommend them. But in most cases here on this forum, many of their models really have no legit niche or advantages in the big picture.
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A filter? What does a filter have to do with anything in this specific part of the debate?


Where is that test data bro? thumb.gif

Delta makes fine purpose specific fans, but your blanket statements made really have no merit or any proof backing up a variety of differenct scenarios, implementations and outright performance. Simple as that.

If I am building up a large high duty server, in an environment where noise is not an issue, I'll gladly use or recommend them. But in most cases here on this forum, many of their models really have no legit niche or advantages in the big picture.

The point is that even though these fans are loud, if you use a controller to drop them down to around 1000-1500 rpm they outperform most fans that are much more expensive. Plus when you consider buying 8+ fans, just for one rad, the cheaper fan starts to look a lot better...
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I'll leave your own opinions to yourselves, self-occluding who thinks that PC fans are way better than industrial fans smile.gif
Seriously, never heard of restriction? Even a honeycomb is a restriction. If you really disagree with me that 120mm deltas are infinitely better than 140mm non-industrial fans get out. Just get out of here
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I'll leave your own opinions to yourselves, self-occluding who thinks that PC fans are way better than industrial fans smile.gif
Seriously, never heard of restriction? Even a honeycomb is a restriction. If you really disagree with me that 120mm deltas are infinitely better than 140mm non-industrial fans get out. Just get out of here
For the application at hand, most times Delta's are a waste of money. Tell me exactly how anyone will benefit from paying more for a Delta fan?

I have probably been installing Delta fans for years, well before you had even known that the company existed.

In the consumer market most of their fans really have little use or value. There are plenty of good competing consumer fans that will do the job just as good given a specific application.

Also I gave specifics and asked you to provide information on how a specific series of fans is overrated. You have not given any substantial answer in return. In other words, your just tossing out an opinion based on 0 merit.
Edited by ZippyPinhead - 12/16/13 at 9:50am
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