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good point, its the same design, but with some minor changes. biggrin.gif


chinese factories almost always makes these sort of replicas or nearly identical copies.
most of the factories "over-produces" the product (for QC reasons) and sells the excess inventory on the black-market.

e.g. if you order 10,000 pieces, they'll produce 11,000 but only ship you 10,000 "working" units.
thats to say the remaining 1,000 either has some defects or are fully functional.
Edited by epic1337 - 10/31/15 at 4:20pm
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Okay, which is this:
Even with patents on things, developers can easily end up spending their profits from a good product trying to protect the rights patents give them.

Ever hear of a company and product named "SawStop"? The original inventor had two partners; a marketing and sales person an a patent lawyer. The patent lawyer's investment was not money, but his time to keep others from infringing on the patents.

Here is an example of a fan that I think is a copy of another;

Ya have a link for that?
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good point, its the same design, but with some minor changes. biggrin.gif


chinese factories almost always makes these sort of replicas or nearly identical copies.
most of the factories "over-produces" the product (for QC reasons) and sells the excess inventory on the black-market.

e.g. if you order 10,000 pieces, they'll produce 11,000 but only ship you 10,000 "working" units.
thats to say the remaining 1,000 either has some defects or are fully functional.

Do keep in mind that you do have a reject rate on any fan out there as well. Yes, they do have factory rejects no matter who's making it.
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there should be patents on the actual design and appearance, so long as the product isn't a blatant plagiarism, i doubt they'd bring it up to the court.
plus they still have the market to back them up, the original developers (or the first one with the "famous" application of the product) can rely on the user base to boycott the copy cat.

Often this thinking leads to being another Apple. Patent trolls
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Ya have a link for that?
Here is a review.
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Say I switch the fan on my raijintek pallas (the one pretty much identical to the slim silverstone fan) to a thicker fan like the phanteks 140XP, will I get any significant improvements?

Edit:
Also what's a good 120/140mm PWM delta that can be safely hooked up to my motherboard without frying the headers?
Edited by rogergamer - 11/2/15 at 2:27am
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thicker fans usually have better static pressure.
as for your question, higher static pressure increases overall effectiveness of the heatsink.
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Say I switch the fan on my raijintek pallas (the one pretty much identical to the slim silverstone fan) to a thicker fan like the phanteks 140XP, will I get any significant improvements?

Edit:
Also what's a good 120/140mm PWM delta that can be safely hooked up to my motherboard without frying the headers?

Wire the fan like 1st one or use a PWM splitter with PSU power like the 2nd one. and you don't have to worry about overloading mbo fan headers. wink.gif

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good point, its the same design, but with some minor changes. biggrin.gif


chinese factories almost always makes these sort of replicas or nearly identical copies.
most of the factories "over-produces" the product (for QC reasons) and sells the excess inventory on the black-market.

e.g. if you order 10,000 pieces, they'll produce 11,000 but only ship you 10,000 "working" units.
thats to say the remaining 1,000 either has some defects or are fully functional.
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Here is a review.
Thanks man. Even the heatsink is an outright OBVIOUS thermalright clone. No attempts at even making it look different. Is that a review?
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Thanks man. Even the heatsink is an outright OBVIOUS thermalright clone. No attempts at even making it look different. Is that a review?
While there are similarities to the HR02 / Macho coolers of Thermalright, there are many differences. The big notch in back of fin pack, contact heatpipes, no louver slots to guide air in the fins, different fan clip design, etc.
But the fan is definitely a copy of TY-14x series fans.
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While there are similarities to the HR02 / Macho coolers of Thermalright, there are many differences. The big notch in back of fin pack, contact heatpipes, no louver slots to guide air in the fins, different fan clip design, etc.
But the fan is definitely a copy of TY-14x series fans.
Those are smaller details apart from the notch but the heatsink generally looks like a macho. Square with only slightly rounded corners wink.gif
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Those are smaller details apart from the notch but the heatsink generally looks like a macho. Square with only slightly rounded corners wink.gif
Also looks like Ereboss, Hyper 612, Lucifer. Are they all Macho copies too?
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