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thx for all the great info!
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I will have to look into delta fans when I build my 8 core rig but for now I just ordered some CM sickleflow 120 to replace my Antec 900 fans that are slowing dying.
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I will have to look into delta fans when I build my 8 core rig but for now I just ordered some CM sickleflow 120 to replace my Antec 900 fans that are slowing dying.
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@DaveLT

Hello Dave,

I have been using the same case and heatsink for many years and are still both running without a problem. I have the CoolerMaster HAF 932 (http://www.coolermaster.com/case/full-tower-haf-series/haf-932/) and the CoolerMaster V8 (http://www.coolermaster.com/cooling/v-series/v8/). Both are pretty old. My CPU has no issues with heat thus far even though the cooler is a few years old now, but my GPU (and soon to be 2 GPUs) run hotter than I would like. My current CPU is "temporary: but I will be replaced and overlocked (i5 4670k) shortly. I have a single GTX 780 and a second one on the way.

I would prefer not to watercool anything. I do overclock but not to extreme extents. The HAF 932 I have has all the original 230mm fans in it. Would you recommend I replace these fans and if so, what with? In addition, should I keep my current V8 CPU cooler or replace that as well? I did have a first-gen i5 overclocked on this fan for years and it never had problems.
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@DaveLT

Hello Dave,

I have been using the same case and heatsink for many years and are still both running without a problem. I have the CoolerMaster HAF 932 (http://www.coolermaster.com/case/full-tower-haf-series/haf-932/) and the CoolerMaster V8 (http://www.coolermaster.com/cooling/v-series/v8/). Both are pretty old. My CPU has no issues with heat thus far even though the cooler is a few years old now, but my GPU (and soon to be 2 GPUs) run hotter than I would like. My current CPU is "temporary: but I will be replaced and overlocked (i5 4670k) shortly. I have a single GTX 780 and a second one on the way.

I would prefer not to watercool anything. I do overclock but not to extreme extents. The HAF 932 I have has all the original 230mm fans in it. Would you recommend I replace these fans and if so, what with? In addition, should I keep my current V8 CPU cooler or replace that as well? I did have a first-gen i5 overclocked on this fan for years and it never had problems.
Replace your heatsink once your 4670k comes in. The V8 is a underperforming noisy heatsink (Even though I would not say it for official reasons but I have to be fair) and I would suggest a AIO like a CM Nepton 140.

I suggest maybe buying Deepcool UF120s (FrozenCPU stocks them cheaper I think) and modding the front a bit to accommodate 2 120s or maybe try 4 120s tongue.gif A 120mm in the 5-1/4" bays. A good alternative is to buy cheap Delta PWM AFBs and get a fan controller if you don't have enough PWM channels

For the side panel fan 2 of 140mm (deepcool UF140/GF140 fans is a good idea) You may have to put a fan in intake for the VRMs but i suggest don't bother. Leaving the 230mm is fine I think if you aren't tool critical about CPU/VRM temps
Look for the black UF fans as those are cheaper and newer

Follow my guide for GPU fan orientation. If you're using a intake you should decide between UF120 or UF140 with a filter
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I've had GPUs that exhausted into the case that benefited from a side intake much more than a side exhaust. I don't think a side exhaust is always better than an intake, and it probably depends on the case and configuration.
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Replace your heatsink once your 4670k comes in. The V8 is a underperforming noisy heatsink (Even though I would not say it for official reasons but I have to be fair) and I would suggest a AIO like a CM Nepton 140.

I suggest maybe buying Deepcool UF120s (FrozenCPU stocks them cheaper I think) and modding the front a bit to accommodate 2 120s or maybe try 4 120s tongue.gif A 120mm in the 5-1/4" bays. A good alternative is to buy cheap Delta PWM AFBs and get a fan controller if you don't have enough PWM channels

For the side panel fan 2 of 140mm (deepcool UF140/GF140 fans is a good idea) You may have to put a fan in intake for the VRMs but i suggest don't bother. Leaving the 230mm is fine I think if you aren't tool critical about CPU/VRM temps
Look for the black UF fans as those are cheaper and newer

Follow my guide for GPU fan orientation. If you're using a intake you should decide between UF120 or UF140 with a filter

Thank you! Im in Canada so Canada Computers here has Deepcool products and they are quite good with prices. I didnt think it would be possible to have 4 120s in that case but I will definitely look into atleast 2 for the front and the CM Nepton or something like it. The nepton is kind of like a watercooler though, isnt it? As for the side panel, is there any "easy" way to attach 2 140s to it? Brackets or that sort of thing? Either way, I will focus on the front, top (which also has 1 230 in it, I guess Ill just put 2 120s in there too), and the heatsink for the moment. Im not planning to overclock my 780s too far (infact, the solo right now is running stock), so all this will hopefully keep me safe and stable. Thanks for your help! Your original post is great as well!

My only request/suggestion I guess for the original guide would be to have definitions for some of your terminology (PWM, AFB, AIO, VRM, etc). It may be common knowledge or I may have missed the definitions somewhere but Im new to all this so I had a hard time figuring it out. ^_^ Cheers!
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Thank you! Im in Canada so Canada Computers here has Deepcool products and they are quite good with prices. I didnt think it would be possible to have 4 120s in that case but I will definitely look into atleast 2 for the front and the CM Nepton or something like it. The nepton is kind of like a watercooler though, isnt it? As for the side panel, is there any "easy" way to attach 2 140s to it? Brackets or that sort of thing? Either way, I will focus on the front, top (which also has 1 230 in it, I guess Ill just put 2 120s in there too), and the heatsink for the moment. Im not planning to overclock my 780s too far (infact, the solo right now is running stock), so all this will hopefully keep me safe and stable. Thanks for your help! Your original post is great as well!

My only request/suggestion I guess for the original guide would be to have definitions for some of your terminology (PWM, AFB, AIO, VRM, etc). It may be common knowledge or I may have missed the definitions somewhere but Im new to all this so I had a hard time figuring it out. ^_^ Cheers!
Delta AFB = Delta AFB1212* (* as in speed rating) PWM = Pulse-width-modulation for fans to be controlled without incident through the motherboard. Requires a fourth pin on the motherboard and the fan wire (commonly blue or gray on the Deepcool fans but for the UFs and GFs it's all PWM anyway)

Nepton ... Just think of it as a "AIR COOLER" It's technically one since you don't have to bother with filling it up or anything like that

4 120s is possible with a AIO on the side panel but don't do it. Cut the mesh a little bit to fit dual 140s on the side panel. If yours doesn't have a window.
Don't focus on the top. It's not very useful but instead concentrate on the front top which is the 5-1/4" inch bay
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I've had GPUs that exhausted into the case that benefited from a side intake much more than a side exhaust. I don't think a side exhaust is always better than an intake, and it probably depends on the case and configuration.
That's because your front intake is lacking.
In a Deepcool Tesserac the stock 1000rpm front fan weren't any useful for the GPU cooling and a side intake actually helped but then a front WFB1212M with a side exhaust improved my temps by a factor-of-ten compared to side intake and WFB1212M

Granted it's still hot in here but at least it's much cooler. I had to drop the clocks to use the stock front fan configuration
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