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Originally Posted by rogergamer View Post

awesome, thanks for the help! and I'm using them (most probably) for exhaust

btw, how do you know so much about these deltas?

 

If you can move up to 120 Id do it since if its exhaust, there wont be the need for static pressure or any fan that makes that level of noise.

Id highly recommend just picking up a 120x38mm bc it will run quieter. 120x38mm is already somewhat over kill but if you can fit it, why not.

Cost is less for a 120x38mm delta/sunon/foxconn vs 120x25mm cougar/noctua/scythe/etc.

 

 

I have no idea LOL. I developed an obsession with taking apart fans and messing around with them over the last 3 months or so..I'll upload a pic of my fan collection when I get home haha. Theyre just so fascinating for some reason.

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If you can move up to 120 Id do it since if its exhaust, there wont be the need for static pressure or any fan that makes that level of noise.
Id highly recommend just picking up a 120x38mm bc it will run quieter. 120x38mm is already somewhat over kill but if you can fit it, why not.
Cost is less for a 120x38mm delta/sunon/foxconn vs 120x25mm cougar/noctua/scythe/etc.


I have no idea LOL. I developed an obsession with taking apart fans and messing around with them over the last 3 months or so..I'll upload a pic of my fan collection when I get home haha. Theyre just so fascinating for some reason.

I agree, the more I research them the more interesting they become, I would fit 120mm's but they would stick out of my case :/ and I already found 2 of the FFC0912 fans for 4 bucks each!

Edit: ****, I just realized two of the spots I intend to put the fan won't fit 38mm fans... ****, looking for 25mm fans now (still using FFC0912 in other vents)
Edited by rogergamer - 11/9/15 at 4:26pm
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Are you barking mad? doh.gifbiggrin.gif
The fan is almost identical so an obvious copy.
The cooler has all kind of differences .. and you say it's a copy, but others with more in common with Macho are not copies. headscratch.gif

But then Asetek has a patent on the pump on waterblock sealed cooler "concept", so who knows what is what.

I said "cooler" not fan. wink.gif If it's the fan then it's a clear cut copy.
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Originally Posted by SHNS0 View Post

Hey Dave wanted to show you this beast right here.
You ever tried one of these?

I've always seen them when shopping but never looked into them.
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Originally Posted by onyxaltezza View Post

You can do better, price per dollar assuming:
1.) Noise isn't a factor
2.) You have room for 38mm
3.) You're not looking to plug onto mobo


I literally happen to have 4 AFB0912HH right next to me on my desk lol.
They are there bc I decided against using them.

I think in terms of best bang for buck + pure raw performance (static pressure+CFM))= AFC0912DE
I wouldnt use them myself bc my rig sits less than 3 ft from my bed who-let-rip-smiley.png
HH is a 25mm thick fan HHE is a 38mm thick fan.

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Originally Posted by rogergamer View Post

got my eyes on a few AFB0912HH, can anyone comment on the performance of those?
Provided it's PWM then ok. Else they are too loud!
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Originally Posted by rogergamer View Post

whats the main difference between afb and afc fans?

AFC are usually OEM fans. But usually AFC only come with one one spec and that's the highest of that range (AFC1212DE = AFB1212SHE). All AFC1212DEs if i'm not wrong are first gen afb1212shes. Good at high speed but at low speed. The Rev.C ones are the other way round but more balanced at the top end.
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Originally Posted by rogergamer View Post

found some FFC0912 fans that can push above 100CFM while being 92mm... probably gonna be super loud though

Edit:
4800 RPM
110 CFM
16.9 mmH2O
59 dB-A
92mm x 92mm x 38mm
PWM
0.8Amps@100% fan cycle (1.5A Max)

any experience with these? seems like quite a monster

I'm already being driven mad at 44dBA much less 59dBA. I say that when I have the PFR0812XHE ...

If I was buying 92mm fans (which I still do just for stock keeping) I buy Sanyo 9S (some go for around 8$) and Sanyo 9ah0912p4h041. The 9S is significantly quieter but quite a bit more expensive.
Edited by DaveLT - 11/10/15 at 3:52am
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I've always seen them when shopping but never looked into them.

You should try them, they put my Deltas to shame. I have the PWM version and they're also very quiet at low rpm.
     
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I said "cooler" not fan. wink.gif If it's the fan then it's a clear cut copy.
Agree about the fan.
Cooler has more than enough differences to say it's not a copy. For example, Thermalright does not use contact heatpipes.biggrin.gif
Maybe sometime we can howl at the moon together. thumb.gif
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I said "cooler" not fan. wink.gif If it's the fan then it's a clear cut copy.
I've always seen them when shopping but never looked into them.
HH is a 25mm thick fan HHE is a 38mm thick fan.
Provided it's PWM then ok. Else they are too loud!
AFC are usually OEM fans. But usually AFC only come with one one spec and that's the highest of that range (AFC1212DE = AFB1212SHE). All AFC1212DEs if i'm not wrong are first gen afb1212shes. Good at high speed but at low speed. The Rev.C ones are the other way round but more balanced at the top end.
I'm already being driven mad at 44dBA much less 59dBA. I say that when I have the PFR0812XHE ...

If I was buying 92mm fans (which I still do just for stock keeping) I buy Sanyo 9S (some go for around 8$) and Sanyo 9ah0912p4h041. The 9S is significantly quieter but quite a bit more expensive.

the sanyo fans don't seem to have PWM control, or are there specific models?

Edit:
the S line doesn't but the GA line does

Edit:
the cheapest AFC0912D I can find is 13 dollars per fan and can't find any cheap sanyo fans....
Edited by rogergamer - 11/10/15 at 12:14pm
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the sanyo fans don't seem to have PWM control, or are there specific models?

Edit:
the S line doesn't but the GA line does

Edit:
the cheapest AFC0912D I can find is 13 dollars per fan and can't find any cheap sanyo fans....

Buy what you can find/afford anyway.
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Agree about the fan.
Cooler has more than enough differences to say it's not a copy. For example, Thermalright does not use contact heatpipes.biggrin.gif
Maybe sometime we can howl at the moon together. thumb.gif

Lol contact heatpipes = deed of the cheapskate.
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contact heatpipes does add some more efficiency though, hyper 212 evo for example is excellent even amongst mid-tier HSFs.
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how do these look:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/400976955111

it's a round AFC0912D with PWM
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contact heatpipes does add some more efficiency though, hyper 212 evo for example is excellent even amongst mid-tier HSFs.
Sorry, but 212 does not perform "more efficienlyt" than similar cooler with heatpipes through copper blocks. Old Ultra 120A and all TRUE Spirit 120 variants perform better than 212 coolers .. and Ultra 120A is like 8 years old now.
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