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Where can I find used industrial fans for cheap? I checked ebay for Delta AFB1212's but they don't have much.

Also, are EK Vardar fans any good?

aren't industrial products, in general, high end and, thus, expensive, anyways? (sorry, wanted to spam commas tongue.gif)

Try open products, used, or clearance items on newegg or amazon. Craigslist and ebay are really frustrating at times; you can be lucky or deal with a stingy seller, but I vote ebay to find good deals.
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Ebay
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craigslist

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aren't industrial products, in general, high end and, thus, expensive, anyways? (sorry, wanted to spam commas tongue.gif)

Try open products, used, or clearance items on newegg or amazon. Craigslist and ebay are really frustrating at times; you can be lucky or deal with a stingy seller, but I vote ebay to find good deals.
I guess I will go back to ebay and use more general search terms. I might be able to find a local computer shop that has some used machines I could grab some fans from.

The reason I asked the question was because the op said something about being able to get them for $5 used.
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I was about to buy some Cryorig QF120 Performance fans but I saw these Delta TFC1212DE's on amazon for about the same price. Should I buy these or the Cryorig's? They look like they are similar to the AFB series but with PWM.

EDIT: I also found the Delta AFB1212SHE-PWM, should I go for that?
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I was about to buy some Cryorig QF120 Performance fans but I saw these Delta TFC1212DE's on amazon for about the same price. Should I buy these or the Cryorig's? They look like they are similar to the AFB series but with PWM.

EDIT: I also found the Delta AFB1212SHE-PWM, should I go for that?
TFC1212DE is rated 3.9 amp .. that is 4 times what a motherboard fan header is rated to handle

AFB1212SHE-PWM is rated 1.05 amp .. motherboard headers are generally rated at 1.00 amp. maximum load.

I would stick with the Cryorig or similar fans .. like PH-F120MP, Venturi HP12, Gentle Typhoon, etc.
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TFC1212DE is rated 3.9 amp .. that is 4 times what a motherboard fan header is rated to handle

AFB1212SHE-PWM is rated 1.05 amp .. motherboard headers are generally rated at 1.00 amp. maximum load.

I would stick with the Cryorig or similar fans .. like PH-F120MP, Venturi HP12, Gentle Typhoon, etc.
wow. Good thing you knew that because I definitely didn't. I will see what else I can find on Amazon. I have a bunch of Amazon gift cards sitting around and I need fans to go with the new radiator I'm buying.
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wow. Good thing you knew that because I definitely didn't. I will see what else I can find on Amazon. I have a bunch of Amazon gift cards sitting around and I need fans to go with the new radiator I'm buying.
What thickness and fin count is the radiator?

Over the years the Gentle Typhoon is king. The new 1850rpm and 2150rpm PWM models give great preformance with low noise. PH-F120MP are about a year old now, but on 'normal' thickness / fin count radiators do very well too. The Vardar seem to be good, but still a few complaints about strange harmonic noise problems. Brand new Corsair ML series with meglev bearings may be very good, but it really too early to say. We need at least a few months of heavy use to find out.
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What thickness and fin count is the radiator?

Over the years the Gentle Typhoon is king. The new 1850rpm and 2150rpm PWM models give great preformance with low noise. PH-F120MP are about a year old now, but on 'normal' thickness / fin count radiators do very well too. The Vardar seem to be good, but still a few complaints about strange harmonic noise problems. Brand new Corsair ML series with meglev bearings may be very good, but it really too early to say. We need at least a few months of heavy use to find out.
This is the radiator - http://www.performance-pcs.com/black-ice-nemesis-l-series-240-xtreme-radiator.html#Features

It's specs say 13 FPI and 53mm thick.
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This is the radiator - http://www.performance-pcs.com/black-ice-nemesis-l-series-240-xtreme-radiator.html#Features

It's specs say 13 FPI and 53mm thick.
I'm not an expert on radiator fans by any means, but 53mm is getting pretty thick even with 13 FPI and need a good pressure rated fan to run single. That's my guess, hopefully @ciarlatano will see this and add his expertise.

The Gentle Typhoon 2150 or 1850 PWM or variable voltage are good choices, but are in the $20 each price range.
Another good fan is PH-F120MP. It's a 500-1800rpm PWM fan and is about $14.00 each.
Or Fractal Design Venturi HP-12 PWM 400-1800rpm fan for about $15.00 each.

Thermalbench has tested these and I trust his test proceedures and resutls.
http://thermalbench.com/2016/04/18/fractal-design-venturi-hp-12-120mm-pwm-fan/3/


Much depends on maximum rpm / noise level that is acceptable. I like having fans that will do what I want at about 13-1500rpm, but have some additional rpm in case of needing to do some extremely high load applications on extremely hot days and if filters are a littler dirty. tongue.gif Most everything I run uses 140mm fans now, and I've been know to use 600-2500rpm fans that never run above 1150rpm unless extreme combinations stack up .. and even than not above 1300-1500rpm.
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I'm not an expert on radiator fans by any means, but 53mm is getting pretty thick even with 13 FPI and need a good pressure rated fan to run single. That's my guess, hopefully @ciarlatano will see this and add his expertise.

The Gentle Typhoon 2150 or 1850 PWM or variable voltage are good choices, but are in the $20 each price range.
Another good fan is PH-F120MP. It's a 500-1800rpm PWM fan and is about $14.00 each.
Or Fractal Design Venturi HP-12 PWM 400-1800rpm fan for about $15.00 each.

Thermalbench has tested these and I trust his test proceedures and resutls.
http://thermalbench.com/2016/04/18/fractal-design-venturi-hp-12-120mm-pwm-fan/3/


Much depends on maximum rpm / noise level that is acceptable. I like having fans that will do what I want at about 13-1500rpm, but have some additional rpm in case of needing to do some extremely high load applications on extremely hot days and if filters are a littler dirty. tongue.gif Most everything I run uses 140mm fans now, and I've been know to use 600-2500rpm fans that never run above 1150rpm unless extreme combinations stack up .. and even than not above 1300-1500rpm.
the mass cool blue led fans i bought twn years ago were 2800 rpms...sounded like a jet taking off...and moved about as much air as the phanteks fans at 1000 rpms lol
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the mass cool blue led fans i bought twn years ago were 2800 rpms...sounded like a jet taking off...and moved about as much air as the phanteks fans at 1000 rpms lol
You mean the pretty blue LEDs didn't improve performance while lowering noise levels? They must have been defect LEDs. doh.gifbiggrin.gif
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