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Alright, now where can I buy them?
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Uh, err ... Google them tongue.gif Or you can also buy this one
http://www.cwc-group.com/8008944.html
AFB fans sometimes come cheap. Or you can buy a WFB1212HE that delivers a metric butt-ton of airflow if you're just using it as a case fan. In fact i've seen them go for 9 bucks.
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http://www.cwc-group.com/afb1224mac54.html

What about a bunch of these bad boys?
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http://www.cwc-group.com/afb1224mac54.html

What about a bunch of these bad boys?
24V tongue.gif
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oopse.... my bad. I will continue to search!
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Great guide you have here! After seeing how cheap those Deltas are I'm very tempted to try a few. Are there any cheap (less than £10 each) 140mm Deltas you would recommend, or are 120mm the best option? These would be for an Arc Midi R2, which has fairly heavy filters. The included fans are pretty weak tbh tongue.gif I'm just a bit worried about the ticking noise you mentioned - I'd like to be able to run them near-silent for browsing (under 20dB would be ideal) but then crank them up for games/benching.

I've had a look at delta's site before, but the naming system scared me off biggrin.gif so any help is greatly appreciated.
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Right now it is down to monies and there are some places selling deltas for like $9 and most others selling for $20+. That seems soooo odd to me.
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Great guide you have here! After seeing how cheap those Deltas are I'm very tempted to try a few. Are there any cheap (less than £10 each) 140mm Deltas you would recommend, or are 120mm the best option? These would be for an Arc Midi R2, which has fairly heavy filters. The included fans are pretty weak tbh tongue.gif I'm just a bit worried about the ticking noise you mentioned - I'd like to be able to run them near-silent for browsing (under 20dB would be ideal) but then crank them up for games/benching.

I've had a look at delta's site before, but the naming system scared me off biggrin.gif so any help is greatly appreciated.
Don't bother with 140mm. I've been very dissapointed with most of them. There aren't any cheap delta 140x25 (I'm not even sure if they exist)
Arc Midi R2 has a lame excuse for a filter right? - A foam filter that is
I got a few new deltas and i don't experience ticking issues anymore ... Strange. I tested my FFB again and it doesn't exhibit that. Again very strange

Here's some help :
AFB - standard 7-blade no stator air foil, highest CFM but the most dispersed airflow of any delta.
FFB - 9-blade with stator air foil, a lil higher noise per CFM
WFB - 7-leaf ish blades, lower static pressure but in the end AFB fans outperform them. Only benefit is their low, low price
EFB (Rare) - 3 blade very steep curve. AFB fans outperform them and their design is a bit long in the tooth already, only nice for their sweet tone
PFB (Rare) - 11 blade Doesn't have the whine the FFB fans have but of course aren't as focused as the FFB series are, quieter and nicer tone
AUB (Rare) - Are actually AFB fans spec-wise but are a bit strange. Acoustically like AFB fans but i'm not too sure
The other series are not within our concern
Then here's the naming strategy - like for example AFB1224M
AFB is the series, 12 is the size 24 is the volts, like 24v. M means the speed rating. 25mm thick fans don't have any lettering behind them but 38mm thick fans are written with a E behind, 32mm are F and 28mm are N

There are also the **C models (example AFC1212DE) which are either OEM versions of the **B models (AFC1212DE 1.6A = AFB1212SHE, AFC1212DE 3.0A = AFB1212GHE) or Sensflow (WFC1212D, AFC1212D) models or new models of the **B or so i've been told ... Like the FFC1212DE which i've put forward for now but i really want that fan being that i own the FFB1212VHE (PWM of course) and i love it
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Right now it is down to monies and there are some places selling deltas for like $9 and most others selling for $20+. That seems soooo odd to me.
Odd indeed.
Edited by DaveLT - 10/14/13 at 1:06pm
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What is your opinion of Yate Loon fans?
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What is your opinion of Yate Loon fans?
I did test them but ... it didn't end too well. The blades are so flimsy they broke after i accidentally stuck my finger into it @1500rpm. My deltas don't do this, they would cause quite a bit of pain biggrin.gif

Otherwise ... Meh. they are meh fans at best. Overrated by about 30% (static pressure not up to what they specify) and use sleeve bearings. I wouldn't use any sleeve bearing fans or even recommend them as they get classified by me as "garbage" redface.gif

I use only 2-ball (single ball is noisier by a lot) and/or hydro. I don't use more than 1 hydro because 1) Good luck when the bearings start wearing out they're hard to access (you have to cut off the top and then after that putting it back together is hard) 2) Most of the time, expensive. Noctua "SSO" bearings are actually hydro bearings
Unless i bought AVC hydro fans tongue.gif (actually i do have one, a 4000rpm 80mm AVC hydro that is) i only use the deepcool SF120 fans that came with my 2 heatsinks because they're decent for exhaust and are well-built.
Hell my HTPC outside uses a 2-ball 92mm PWM San Ace (120mm wouldn't fit because of the weird motherboard design flaw) and a WFB1212M. The fan on the heatsink came with the 3$ heatsink and is a hydro bearing (LOL)
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